THE ATTEMPT TO UNDO AN ELECTION: I MAY BE RELUCTANTLY CHANGING MY MIND ON LOTT

dfu | 12-2002 | dfu

[TLBSHOW]

its from the internet rat sites

[alnick]

Bush did exactly the right thing, as I expected him to. He distanced himself and the party from the perception of racism that Lott thrust upon us. Bush was right: Segregation is NOT what this party or this country stands for, and we do not need the leader of the senate publicly yearning for what might have been.

[cynicom]

chancellor...

Show me anywhere that I said Lott was not a racist. I am not interested in Lott and racism, I am interested in the "politics" of the matter. Hang Lott if your desire and think you are right. I do not care. I am concerned about the political fallout, what is down the road.

[neutrino]

My compliments on your wisdom and insight.

[The Great Satan]

All it would take is for Lott to become a Democrat, and all would be forgiven.

So what? News flash: Lott isn't going to become a Democrat.

[freebilly]

Lott need not answer to anyone but the citizens of Mississippi

He's the frickin' Republican leader for crying out loud. His responsibility to the good people of Mississippi is fine and dandy, but if that's all he needs to answer to then he needs to get his sorry a$$ out of the leadership position....

[The Great Satan]

Folks; I strongly suspect that in the long run, because Lott has a leash on him now, we'll benefit.

Hmm, I noticed the NYT and Hillary Clinton didn't call for him to step down. Neither did Lott's good friend, Tom Daschle. They know what side their bread is buttered. This is Hillary's dream come true. Thanks, Trent! You really came through for the Clintons, one more time! Fabulous job!

[Digger]

If you all want him then keep him. I guarantee you that he is/will be a liabilty & watch out next election.

[Publius6961]

For all you who are saying "Lott isn't a racist", I'll point out that unless you're Lott, you don't know.

Funny thing is... that the same thing holds true if you say "He is a racist".

Yet you managed to weave a brainless attack on that very assumption.
Making inferences and then attacking them is soooo "progressive".

[twyn1]

Okay -- I've been more off than on FR this week (sidelined with a bad back) so I may have missed a few things -- just what was the timeline here ? -- this is how I understood it...

• Senate Session Ends (Wednesday ?)
• Strom Thurmond has Birthday Pary (Thursday) at which Trent utters stupid remark
• Nothing (Friday into Saturday) from the Press, etc.
• Jesse Jackson sends an e-mail or note to media source (which one ??) upset over the Lott "remarks" (Saturday afternoon ??)
• Louisiana Election (Saturday)
• Press begins coverage -- Daschle makes "not a big deal" type remark (when ?)
• Black Congressional Caucus begins "commenting" (when?)
• More press, more coverage, more piling on (Sharpton, etc.), 1st apology (Monday ??)
• Daschle makes new statement, White House makes 1st statement (when?)
• More squawking, press really heats up (Wednesday), 2nd apology
• Pres. Bush makes strong statement but does not ask Lott to step down (Thursday)
• Long formal apology and Q&A session by Lott (Friday)
• Press coverage may be slowing down (today)

Now -- my big question is this....if the remark was obviously racist (or if it even "smacked of racism") -- why was there NO outcry for the first two days ? And did the LA election have any bearing on what's been happening?

[freebilly]

You don't bench your most important player just because he's the world's biggest jerk.

Trent Lott is hardly the Michael Jordan or Bret Favre of the Republican Party. Whatever political capital Lott has accrued over the years has virtually vanished overnight. He's no longer an asset. He's damaged goods....

[jwalsh07]

Because James Carville wasn't ready for the offensive until day three. Lloyd Grove of the Washington Post said that Carville started contacting the media on day three. The anti-Lottites joined with the Carvillites on day four and here's where we are today.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Au contraire. The evidence is more like that he harbors some strange ideas regarding the GOP and the traitor Jefferson Davis, saying they were similar while playing games with neo Confederate groups. When you consider that as an experienced politician, he knew this history and ran his mouth anyway, yet seems mystified that people would be disgusted, you know something is wrong.

And let me ask this about Thurmond. Where is he in all this? Why hasn't he stated how wrongheaded those former views were?

[freebilly]

And let me ask this about Thurmond. Where is he in all this? Why hasn't he stated how wrongheaded those former views were?

The man is 100 years old. You actually want him making public declarations?

[aruanan]

And now, Lott puts his foot in his mouth to give them the opportunity for which they have waited.

Actually, Lott didn't put his foot in his mouth. I heard what he said. It was entirely innocuous. What is not innocuous is what people have been attributing to what he said. This is a coldly calculated attempt at a political lynching based on false testimony--the testimony of those who have, in a purely racist manner, falsely attributed racist overtones to what Lott said in order to benefit from the fall-out of the trouble they have attempted to cause (and pretty much have gotten away with, due, in large part, to too many people too willing to parrot what they've heard on the news, itself a willing accomplice in the lynching.).

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Sure. He's been sponging off us for years, its the least he could do.

[twyn1]

Hmm..was it Jackson or Carville who started the ball rolling ? I sense a definite undercurrent of "manipulation" and the stench of BS wafting thru' this mess, Daschle was positively "giddy" after the Landrieu win -- much more so than he should have been ???

[ambrose]

Well Cheerleader Trent has never done much to stand in the way of the Rat agenda. In fact, he has actively undermined the conservative agenda and put on a farce impeachment trial for Slick Willie. I don't see why you're wasting an ounce of energy defending Lott when a real conservative with a spine might replace him as senate leader.

If Lott ultimately resigns from the senate, then so be it. A special election would be held in November of 2003, at which time Chip Pickering would win. We can't be held hostage by this moron RINO Lott any longer.

[aruanan]

There is something the matter with this guy. The same thing is the matter with many of them. Not racism -- solipsism. The "it's all about me-ness" of the world. This is the sort of person who steps up to the plate when offices and dignities are being passed around. They have to be controlled. Madison was a genius.

Madison may have been a genius, but your friend is out of touch with reality. He is saying that a person who seeks to preserve himself when being unjustly maligned is being selfish. Yeah, and an armed robber and his victim are the same because they both want the same thing--the victim's money.

[ambrose]

And let me ask this about Thurmond. Where is he in all this? Why hasn't he stated how wrongheaded those former views were?

You're joking, right? It has been "Weekend at Bernies" for the past couple of years. Strom has literally LIVED at a DC Naval hospital. All he has done is walked down to the senate floor and voted the way his chief of staff told him to vote.