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Oral sex linked to cancer of the mouth
Suday Herald (UK) ^ | unknown | Sarah-Kate Templeton

Posted on 12/12/2002 8:13:17 AM PST by Sangamon Kid

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To: Sangamon Kid
I suppose the women who look on the act as demeaning will trumpet this news, but what of those of us who actually LIKE it? Until they can show me a high rate of hookers and porn stars with mouth cancer (the most visible participants in our society), this is nothing but B.S.

I'd bet it was a rabid feminist that jumped to this conclusion.

241 posted on 12/12/2002 3:12:48 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: u-89
Then by definition coitus interruptous is a corruption of the act and is therfore sinfull as well.

Yes, many Catholics believe this. While I understand their position and believe in the sentiment it means to inspire (e.g. the extremely sacred quality of sex), I do not subscribe to it in every detail.

242 posted on 12/12/2002 3:13:28 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: u-89
And wasn't Onan in trouble because he was suppose to bear offspring and chose not to?

That's my take.

If the act itself was the sin, then we should all never eat fruit from a tree either. IMO.

243 posted on 12/12/2002 3:16:06 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: muggs; RnMomof7
I think this line of reasoning should be modified toward those who think it's 'safe' to engage in promiscuity if they only have 'oral sex' instead of intercourse.
244 posted on 12/12/2002 3:17:33 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: RnMomof7
So nice of you to care about the well being of your wife(??)...the specific virus being discussed in this article is a risk only to women..

So i should never have sex with a woman again just in case I'm carrying HPV? Is that what you're saying?

And if the virus does in fact cause cancer of the mouth then it will cause it in men who perform oral sex on women as well. The tissue of the mouth is not so different that one sex would have immunity.

245 posted on 12/12/2002 3:20:16 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: SandfleaCSC
Yes, masturbation is sinful.

Pure opinion and church policy, no biblical opinion on this one either.

Actually you can extrapolate from the texts that are there, in that if the wife is offended/feels cheated by it, you should not do it. If you are thinking of someone other than your wife you should not do it (it is lust). If it causes you to pull away from your wife emotionally you should not do it.

246 posted on 12/12/2002 3:20:20 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Sangamon Kid
About the only "safe" thing left to do is "take matters in your own hands"!!
247 posted on 12/12/2002 3:24:05 PM PST by WKB
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To: WKB
Did your mother tell you? That'll make you go blind.
248 posted on 12/12/2002 3:26:34 PM PST by discostu
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To: MattAMiller
Men can get tested. For women, it'll show up on the pap smear. If you are worried about it, see your doctor.

I'm married, so things like this are strictly between me and my lovely wife.

249 posted on 12/12/2002 3:26:38 PM PST by Dead Corpse
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To: Terriergal
BTW I never said there weren't some women that like it. It's just that overall most of the women I've talked to kind of groan exasperatedly about the subject.

I've heard many women discuss the matter in a wide variety of settings. Those from more churched backgrounds tend to think there is something wrong with it or for that reason don't want to admit to it or as you say, some, from any background just don't like it. I remember these two girls at a bar were discussing it and one occassionally performed under duress for her boyfriend and the other one couldn't understand what the problem was as she liked it a lot. On the flip side most men just out of image projection amongst peers won't admit to not liking to perform for women even if they are sqeamish in practice.

As you stated in a marriage though selfishness is not a good thing and that covers any topic. Best to have a good understanding of someone's feelings and beliefs before a lifetime contract is finalized.

250 posted on 12/12/2002 3:27:16 PM PST by u-89
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To: discostu
Did your mother tell you? That'll make you go blind.

Yes and I have been wearing glasses since I was 15

251 posted on 12/12/2002 3:30:55 PM PST by WKB
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To: Terriergal
Maybe it's you who knows the strange women! ;-)

I don't consider myself a strange woman, others may disagree. :)

252 posted on 12/12/2002 3:42:59 PM PST by muggs
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To: Sangamon Kid
Q: Why do dogs lick themselves?

A: Because they can!

253 posted on 12/12/2002 3:48:13 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: Son of Rooster
Yeah I know. :-\
254 posted on 12/12/2002 4:09:14 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: RnMomof7
Ever see how beautiful a woman with a resected head and neck or mouth is? A very different thing than a resected cervix..But why let that stop you?

I have seen one, an old woman who lost her entire lower jaw decades ago. Any good dentist today can catch a mouth cancer early, and women tend to see their dentists far more often than they see their gynecologists.

But you simply refuse to answer my question, don't you?

If neither the man nor the woman has HPV, they're not going to get mouth cancer from HPV. So what do they risk, except your disapproval?

And I'm sure there are untouched virgins out there who come down with mouth cancer for other reasons than an act they've never performed. HPV is not the only cause, and the risk of getting it seems extremely small for everyone except--oh, I don't know. Prostitutes and drugged up teenagers willing to put out for their entire school?

You remind me of several girlfriends of mine who gave up tampons because they were convinced they would get toxic shock syndrome unless they reverted to the feminine hygiene of the last century. No amount of telling them that men and boys and postmenopausal women also got toxic shock made any difference. They had it in their minds that tampons cause toxic shock and that was that as far as they were concerned.

Personally, I refuse to let baseless fears or infinitesimal risks dictate the course of my life. There's just nothing in that article that would frighten me.

255 posted on 12/12/2002 4:10:10 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Terriergal
It would be included in fornication. Yes petting would be considered so too.

It's too bad that the Bible is silent on the matter of oral sex. Intercourse is the only sexual act addressed directly. Sex, oral sex, manual stimulation, kissing, etc. are not bad in and of themselves. The context within which one takes part in these activities can be a problem. The Bible is clear that intercourse is left to married couples, any other act and you're going to have a hard time showing the "fornication" angle.

I guess an orgasim is only "ok" when it leads to conception within a marrige context - heaven forbid couple enjoy each other without having sex.

256 posted on 12/12/2002 4:11:23 PM PST by realpatriot71
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To: muggs
hee hee!
257 posted on 12/12/2002 4:11:34 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: MattAMiller
I believe that if you have any consideration beyond your pleasure this is something that needs to be considered..if your sex partner has no long term plans for her face ..go right ahead

I am not anti sex or anti oral sex I am pro life...there is life beyond orgasims ..although some folks do not seem to think so

258 posted on 12/12/2002 4:11:44 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: u-89
I consider homosexuality bizarre. They may come by it naturally but their wires sure are crossed up. How any man could think of another man the way the rest of us think about women just doesn't compute - and that thought comes to me naturally!

I always said, "how a man could have a desire for something that he has on his own body is beyond me". Maybe it's just another form of mental illness.

259 posted on 12/12/2002 4:12:40 PM PST by my right
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To: hellinahandcart
Personally, I refuse to let baseless fears or infinitesimal risks dictate the course of my life. There's just nothing in that article that would frighten me.

terrific...get a good dentist

260 posted on 12/12/2002 4:12:55 PM PST by RnMomof7
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