[BOBWADE]

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[Libertarianize the GOP]

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[IncredibleHulk]

Actually, this is a property rights issue and is central to who owns the land.

[lawdog]

"We could have avoided this suit if he had just avoided the wetlands area."

Here's the crux of it ding dong. Is it his land or not ? Where is the Constitutional power granted to the Army Corps of Engineers defined ? Article 1, 2 or 3 or ?

[spunkets]

"Jeffrey P. Minear, assistant to the solicitor general, said deep plowing at the Borden Ranch throughout the 1990s punctured a patchwork of swales at the bottom of the area's hills and polluted them by churning up clay and soil. "

Polluted it with what, the same stuff that was already there in the first place? A swale is a low area that floods when the ground won't soak up the rain quickly enough. How do you puncture a low area in the ground? These leftists just make stuff up!

[TYVets]

Again, The 9th United States Circuit Court of Appeals is in the news.

Is it possible to get a change of venue, to escape these Irrational Radical Left Wing Extremists ( IRLWE )?

[APBaer]

This is my plow, it is not my "tool."
My plow is small, my "tool"....
er better not go there.

[DB]

Who's freeking property is it! The government's our the person who purchased the rights to it?

[B4Ranch]

We need a farmer in here. Time to speak for the farmers, Dear.

[Amerigomag]

For the non farmers in the group the issue is deep plowing (referred to as ripping) and it's effect on the ability of soil to hold runoff water on the surface after a rain.

In areas that have vernal pools these local ponds are usually created by a thin (or thick) layer of clay just beneath the surface. The clay layer prevents even small amounts of water from seeping down into the underground. This water remains on the surface and creates a small pond or "wetland".

Ripping breaks up the clay layer and allows the water to quickly disappear underground.

This case is not about polluting the pond but preventing its formation. The pollution issue is being raised by the greenies because it fits the federal law, not the circumstances of this case.

[nightdriver]

"Jeffrey P. Minear, assistant to the solicitor general, said deep plowing at the Borden Ranch throughout the 1990s punctured a patchwork of swales at the bottom of the area's hills and polluted them by churning up clay and soil."

This poor sad sack is just part of the creeping oppressiveness that is happening in our country's government. He's never heard of subsoiling and the fact that in order to make some land capable of bearing crops, you have to allow it to drain.

Just part of the same madness of letting the government rule every aspect of societal activity. We don't need wetlands, anyway, unless it is for more mosquito breeding grounds.