Posted on 12/10/2002 11:24:35 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Tuesday shut the door on felons going straight to court to get their gun rights restored, leaving no options for people who claim a conviction shouldn't stop them from being a gun owner.
The justices ruled unanimously that felons must go through a federal agency. That agency, however, has been banned by Congress since 1992 from processing requests.
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Somebody should explain to this idiot that Constitutional RIGHTS aren't granted by a office of government.
Thomas said the ATF, not a judge, was best prepared to look into whether an applicant could be a danger to public safety.
Does this idiot also think that RIGHTS are determined by a Committee for Public Safety"? Does he think this is France during the French Revolution?
The justices rejected Bean's argument that the government's inability to act amounted to a denial.
Of course they did. Heaven forbid that any of these ball less political hacks make a actual non-PC decision that supports the US Constitution.
The Bush administration had argued against Bean,
Of course they have. The ball less statists who are afraid of freedom got together and elected their king,and they call him "President Bush".
despite the Justice Department's stance that the Constitution guarantees a right to gun ownership.
This is NOT the sorta-Justice Department stand on the 2nd Amendment,and it is NOT the stand of the Bubba-2 White House. What Janet Ashcroft wrote was "that while the 2nd Amendment is a individual right,the federal government reserves the right to regulate reasonable restrictions on who can own guns,and what type of guns they can own." In other words,according to the Bubba-2 administration,you have a Constitutional Right to own guns as long as they are willing to allow you to own them,and as long as you only want to own the ones they are willing to ALLOW you to have. For some reason the second part of this never gets mentioned.
The National Rifle Association did not file arguments in the case,
Of course not. Even the Gun Control Act of 1968 had the NRA stamp of approval,and it's current president is on record as stating he "hate AK-47's,and see no reason for anyone TO BE ALLOWED TO OWN THEM".
but other gun rights supporters backed Bean. Mathew Nosanchuk, litigation director for the pro-gun control Violence Policy Center, predicted the court's decision will end an effort to give felons gun rights.
Somebody needs to tell Mr Nosanchuk that the feral gooberment has no more legal authority to GIVE Mr Bean rights than they had to take them away. If the gooberment can take it away,it is NOT a right. It's a privledge.
Further,someone needs to highlight the FACT that it wasn't a violation of federal law for convicted felons to own guys prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968. That is because it was recogonized that doing such a thing would be un-Constitutional. These conntrol-freak shills used the emotion resulting from the murders of the Kennedy's and MLK Jr to slide this under the door,and nobody has the guts to stand up to them.
No,they don't. And beyond that,they now throw out military members who have been convicted or even charged with "domestic assault" because of the new laws that allow the police to steal the guns from anyone charged with this crime.
There is already at least one case where the Bubba-2 so-called Justice Dept is doing a federal prosecution on a convicted felon who had a state pardon and bought a new gun at a gun shop. There was a thread about it here on FR a couple of weeks ago.I think it is safe to say it wasn't one of Bubba-1's OR Bubba-2's convicted felon friends. Bubba-1 gave HIS convicted drug-dealing felon friend a federal pardon,so the feds can't go after him.
No they don't. However, you may be interested to know that if you are convicted of a felony, then the charge is later reduced to a misdameanor, dismissed, and expunged. You have NOT been convicted of a felony for all purposes (including joining the military) EXCEPT you can NEVER own a gun.
Travis,the next terrorist act will result in Bubba-2 asking for MORE restrictions on gun ownership,not less.
No habla Senor Bush?
Yes.
Wrong.
1. There is no Federal Law restricting the voting rights of convicted felons. Elections are left to the state so the law is different in every state. Some states have no laws restricting the voting rights of convicted felons, some do, while others say only parolees cannot vote. Understand?
2. Laws that seek to disenfranchise voters convicted of a felony scare the Hell out of me for one simple reason. You want to get rid of your political opposition? Make something a felony. Charge and convict the opposition and they can never vote against you again.
I'm far from a legal eagle,but I THINK this has to do with the NAFTA agreement. I'm not sure of the exact wording,but I'm pretty sure we surrendered.
We don't have a trade agreement with Iran,and they won't soon be a part of the same country. This is just setting the ground for our accepting Mexican law as part of our legal code.
Doesn't Bubba-2 look just DREAMY in his new sombrero and serape? And what about that handsome nephew of his,George "The Mexican" Bush? So young,yet allowed to give a speech at the 2000 Republican convention!
I sure as hell don't.
Is it starting to get any clearer yet?
Mexico itself seems to have been conspicuously silent about this particular affair.
This is one of those rare circumstances where the smartass answer is the same as the most accurate answer,"what fox paws?"
BTW,I don't carry grudges or arguements from one thread to another. Life is too short,and we both have better things to do that continue to alienante someone who may agree with us on most issues because they disagree with us on one.
Mine too,actually. My understanding is that this agreement comes from the treaty,that says both countries will respect the legal systems of the other country. Unless I remember it wrong, Bean was allowed to serve his time in the US instead of a Mexican prison because of this.
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