[H.Akston]

There is a reason not a word was spoken on this subject at the Constitutional Convention and that is because it was unthinkable to those true patriots many of whom had risked all on the battlefield fighting for Independence.

You might want to enlighten yourself on the Declaration of Independence. It says that the states are "FREE AND INDEPENDENT", and as such have the right to levy war make peace, contract alliances, and do all things that INDEPENDENT STATES may of right do. The Constitution is an alliance. Federalist 39 says that the only bind to the Constitution is by the states' own VOLUNTARY acts. The Constitution does not bind the State into the Union, the State's choice of being a member of the Union is the ONLY THING that binds it, according to JAMES MADISON. What you are saying goes against the very spirit, grain and fabric of what America is founded on - independence and free will.

Just Shut Up and Take it. The South was Right.

[WhiskeyPapa]

The Constitution does not bind the State into the Union, the State's choice of being a member of the Union is the ONLY THING that binds it, according to JAMES MADISON.

Under natural law, not United States law. United States law makes the federal government supreme over the states, as Madison clearly stated on numerous occasions.

George Washington wanted a "coercive power" and that power is in the Constitution.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

You might want to enlighten yourself on the Declaration of Independence. It says that the states are "FREE AND INDEPENDENT", and as such have the right to levy war make peace, contract alliances, and do all things that INDEPENDENT STATES may of right do. The Constitution is an alliance.

The D of I has no standing as U.S. law. It's not a law, it's an excuse for going outside the law -- British law.

The Consitution is -not- an alliance. I challenge you to find one delegate to the Constitutional Convention that called it that. The convention specifically arranged to have the Constitution ratified in conventions drawn for that purpose -- NOT by the state legislatures. The purpose of the CC was to strengthen the Articles because the government was going to pieces. In the event, the Articles were tossed and a much stronger federal government substituted. I am sorry you don't like it, but there it is.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Just Shut Up and Take it. The South was Right.

The south wound up taking it.

Walt

[justshutupandtakeit]

You've tried those lies before and there is not a shred of truth in any of them.

The Declaration has little to do with the constitution and the author of the former would have undoubtably opposed the latter had he been in this country. His later actions and remarks indicate both a lack of understanding of the constitution and a contempt for it. Like you and the other D.S.'s.

The Confederacy was wrong in every catagory which can be measured.

State's were never Free and Independent. Their very existence depended upon the Union.

The Constitution is not an alliance it is an act by the People of the United States. Stop lying. The States were not allowed to make the decision whether or not to ratify it. This was done by the American People in convention in the States. Stop Lying.