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U.S. TAKEN BY SURPRISE BY SAUDI MISSILE CAPABILITY
MENewsline ^ | dec82002

Posted on 12/08/2002 9:00:16 PM PST by swarthyguy

WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The United States has acknowledged that Saudi Arabia has acquired intermediate-range missile capability.

But U.S. officials said the Defense Department does not regard the Saudi missile capability as a threat to American interests in the Gulf region.

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz was believed to have been the first U.S. senior official to publicly address the Saudi intermediate-range missile capability. In an address to a Washington audience on Oct. 24. Wolfowitz said Riyad acquired the missiles from China in a development that stunned Washington.

"I believe in the 1980s when Saudi Arabia acquired long-range ballistic missiles from the People's Republic of China it took us completely by surprise," Wolfowitz told Frontiers for Freedom. "We think a relatively harmless surprise, but nonetheless a surprise."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: araby; enemies; enemy; saud; saudi

1 posted on 12/08/2002 9:00:16 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: weikel
SaudiPing. Any corroborating links welcome.
2 posted on 12/08/2002 9:00:58 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
" In an address to a Washington audience on Oct. 24"

Six weeks ago. Ho hum. I read elsewhere that when Germany asked for some information concerning a trial going on in Germany that links Al Queda funding to the Saudis, the US turned Germany down. If it's not about oil, what's it about?
3 posted on 12/08/2002 9:05:49 PM PST by gcruse
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To: swarthyguy
GOOGLE Search Term: "SAUDI MISSILE"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Saudi+Missile%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
4 posted on 12/08/2002 9:11:26 PM PST by Cindy
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To: swarthyguy
In the 1980's? We've known about it since the 1980's and it's being written about now?
5 posted on 12/08/2002 9:13:32 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Cindy
Thank You. Yeah, your info is more interesting. Should've skipped this post probably. But, hey, anything to work that Saudi fetish.
6 posted on 12/08/2002 9:13:33 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: McGavin999
There are a few articles and weikel may pop up some links he put up on a thread where there was some doubt about Saudi missile capability and Pakistan culpability in providing them with WMD.

At missile tests conducted in Pakistan earlier this year during the standoff with India, not only were there dignitaries from China and North Korea, but a couple of important Saudi royals attended as well.
7 posted on 12/08/2002 9:38:39 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Swarthy Guy, so far, everything I have read in the Middle East Newsline synopsis has been accurate. I had to do a very creative search, but here is a link which includes a snippet to that October 24, 2002 speech that was referred to on the Middle East Newsline.

DefenseLINK.mil: "Remarks by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz , Frontiers of Freedom, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, DC, Thursday, October 24, 2002." (SPEECH Question & Answer Session SNIPPET: "DepSec Wolfowitz: I think what it points out, and I think it should be a reminder to people on every side -- I was about to say both sides of this debate, but I find it a multi-sided debate. Whatever position one holds, one I think should recognize the potential for things to develop in ways that we don't anticipate, and the fact that if you stop and think about it, that concern that I mentioned which is a real one -- As I said, we demonstrated it in 1947 and we aren't the only ones who have thought about it, is something that requires thinking about missile defense in yet another difficult way. One could build the best possible defenses against intercontinental ballistic missiles and miss that possibility. I think as long as there are countries out there -- and there are -- who are as clearly determined as they are and they evidence it among other things, I mentioned the amount of resources they devote to being able to attack us. We need to be thinking ahead of them. We need to be thinking out of the box. We need to remember that there was a time when we said, I believe it was March of 1962, that it was inconceivable the Soviet Union would put missiles in Cuba. I believe in the 1980s when Saudi Arabia acquired long-range ballistic missiles from the Peoples Republic of China it took us completely by surprise. We think a relatively harmless surprise, but nonetheless a surprise.")

8 posted on 12/08/2002 9:41:28 PM PST by Cindy
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To: swarthyguy
Hmmm... U.S. intelligence can't read AlQaeda communications,
Saudis in the thick of it,
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the words, 'pre-emptive strike' come to mind.

But I almost forgot our president is the first 'honorary muslem president.'

9 posted on 12/08/2002 10:01:10 PM PST by Taiwan Bocks
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To: gcruse
Of course it's much about oil!!

Why shouldn't it be??? We depend on that resource for our lifes blood.

So we should be willing to defend it. Unfortunately, it creates this nasty hypocracy in our relationship with the Saudi's.

Such is world politics.

11 posted on 12/08/2002 10:14:15 PM PST by zarf
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To: swarthyguy
um.....isn't there a difference between intermediate & long range ?
The original article didn't mention intermediate in relation to the Saudis. So, is this article saying we knew they had long range missiles but are shocked to find out that they had intermediate ?
12 posted on 12/08/2002 10:26:45 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: swarthyguy

13 posted on 12/08/2002 10:28:56 PM PST by cartoonistx
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To: swarthyguy
Here ya go... China also sold some missiles to Syria about this time...

MARCH 1988 : (CHINA SELLS MISSILES TO SAUDI ARABIA) Reports reveal that China has transferred approximately 36 CSS-2 intermediate-range ballistic missiles to Saudi Arabia. This is first transfer of missiles of this range and capability within the developing world; the missiles were originally part of China's strategic arsenal, but Saudi and Chinese officials assure that the missiles will not be nuclear-armed. - "U.S.-China Techonology Transfer: Annotated Timeline 1980-January 1998," by Bates Gill, GlobalBeat, NYU.edu, June 22, 1998

14 posted on 12/08/2002 10:48:14 PM PST by piasa
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To: swarthyguy
JULY 1988 : (US SEC OF STATE SCHULTZ CONCERNED ABOUT CHINESE MISSILE EXPORTS TO IRAN, IRAQ, & SAUDI ARABIA) In Beijing, U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz expresses his concern over Chinese missile and weapons exports to Iran, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. - "U.S.-China Techonology Transfer: Annotated Timeline 1980-January 1998," by Bates Gill, GlobalBeat, NYU.edu, June 22, 1998

Around this time there was also the ABSCAM sting which netted several political figures when an agent posing as an Arab shiekh bribed them and they were caught on film.

15 posted on 12/08/2002 11:10:10 PM PST by piasa
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To: piasa
Wasn't the Abscam scandal in the 70's?
16 posted on 12/09/2002 8:58:07 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Taiwan Bocks
>>our president is the first 'honorary muslem president.'

Sometimes i wonder about the 'honorary' concerning our timidity to confront the guardians of makkah, the saudis.
17 posted on 12/09/2002 8:59:35 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
No, early eighties.

The sting took place in January 1980; the Abscam story broke in February 1980.

18 posted on 12/10/2002 7:24:34 PM PST by piasa
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To: swarthyguy
Of course, that means I was being way too generous with 'about this time,' LOL.
19 posted on 12/10/2002 7:26:53 PM PST by piasa
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