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Demonstrators call for peace
Topeka Capital-Journal ^ | 12/08/02 | Tim Hrenchir

Posted on 12/08/2002 9:45:28 AM PST by axel f

Demonstrators call for peace

By Tim Hrenchir The Capital-Journal

Rally-goers gathered Saturday at the Kansas Statehouse carrying dozens of signs to show what they thought about the possibility of a U.S. attack on Iraq. "Patriots prefer peace," one sign said.

"Would Jesus launch a pre-emptive strike?" another asked.

"All we are saying is give peace a chance," a third added.

Between 250 and 300 people attended the late-morning rally near the south steps of the Statehouse, said Bill Beachy, executive director of the Topeka Center for Peace and Justice.

Beachy, whose group organized the event, said he felt pleased with the turnout. He noted that participants were of various ages, religions and backgrounds and included rural and urban residents. Some were old enough to have protested the Vietnam War, while many hadn't been born at the time of that conflict.

Imam Omar Hazim, of the Islamic Center of Topeka, gave the opening prayer for the peace rally, which featured guest speakers, musical performances and a play.

Hazim said that at a time when the United States is experiencing 6 percent unemployment, the country should take care of its problems at home rather than send soldiers thousands of miles to destroy another nation.

Jim McConnell, a Navy veteran of the Gulf War, told rally participants that people who oppose an attack on Iraq have been appearing publicly once a week since August in his hometown of Wichita to show their feelings. McConnell said the protesters in Wichita have gotten an "overwhelming" response from the public, with passers-by often cheering, honking their car horns or giving them thumbs-up signs.

McConnell said public support for attacking Iraq is "incredibly soft."

"I've talked to lots of veterans, and they think this is a really bad idea," he said.

Beachy said Saturday's rally brought together people who oppose an attack on Iraq for various reasons, including opinions that:

• Federal officials haven't shown sufficient evidence that Iraq poses a threat to the United States.

• Attention to Iraq detracts from the ongoing war on terrorism in this country.

• War in Iraq would cost a lot of money at a time when this country is suffering economically.

• War is morally wrong.

• Any intervention in Iraq should be approved by the Security Council of the United Nations.

• Intervention in Iraq should occur without the use of violence.

Not everyone on hand at Saturday's rally necessarily opposed war with Iraq, though. David Owen said he just came to watch.

"I think that we should go to war," Owen said. "I just think we need to take care of the problem, and the problem's not here in America. It's in Iraq."

Saturday's rally ended with a performance by Lawrence's New World Order Choir, which sang original songs about such topics as the possibility of war with Iraq. At the end of their last song, a choir member called out, "What's war good for?"

"Absolutely nothing!" the audience chanted in response.

The rally then turned into a march as participants walked to the Carlson Federal Building, 444 S.E. Quincy, before returning to the Statehouse.

Tim Hrenchir can be reached at (785) 295-1184 or threnchir@cjonline.com.


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1 posted on 12/08/2002 9:45:28 AM PST by axel f
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To: AdA$tra; jonefab; rwfromkansas; Free State Four; TroutStalker; Steel Eye; alfa6; ALS; amarok; ...
KS Ping
2 posted on 12/08/2002 9:47:35 AM PST by axel f
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To: axel f
Hazim said that at a time when the United States is experiencing 6 percent unemployment, the country should take care of its problems at home rather than send soldiers thousands of miles to destroy another nation.

How about Hazim speaking out against the misuse of his faith to justify sending Islamofascists thousands of miles to destroy people in the United States?

3 posted on 12/08/2002 9:48:56 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: axel f
"Would Jesus launch a pre-emptive strike?" another asked.

You never know. See Jesus is God's Atomic Bomb, Swan's Silvertone Singers, c. 1957.

4 posted on 12/08/2002 9:54:35 AM PST by dighton
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To: axel f
These misguided enablers are demonstrating to the wrong audience ... try it in Mecca, Damascus. See how quickly they can get a permit in Cairo, Tehran, Baghdad, or Chechnya to demand the Islamic terrorists be at peace.
5 posted on 12/08/2002 9:55:01 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Numbers Guy
Ya gotta love the timing of the peaceniks. Holding an anti-war rally on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor.
6 posted on 12/08/2002 9:58:53 AM PST by axel f
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To: axel f
Maybe they should all strip and make message's visible from outer space...it's been done before...hehehehe

7 posted on 12/08/2002 10:07:28 AM PST by 45semi
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To: axel f
Some were old enough to have protested the Vietnam War ...
I was going to write that these were probably some of the old hippies that infest Lawrence.

Then I went to the article and found this photo which proves my point. LOL


From left, protesters, Michael Hodgson, of Topeka, along with Lawrence residents Maggie Riggs and Ann Burgess, carry signs displaying their opposition to the possibility of war with Iraq during Saturday afternoon's peace rally outside the Statehouse. "I hope this has some effect," said Burgess. "Seeing this many people here gives me some hope." Nick Krug/The Capital-Journal

8 posted on 12/08/2002 10:11:29 AM PST by KS Flyover
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To: axel f
"Would Jesus launch a pre-emptive strike?" another asked.

I have to wonder if this person is one of those people who believe that Jesus condones homosexuality and abortion.

9 posted on 12/08/2002 10:22:13 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: axel f
Sheesh. They are still using John Lennon and Eric Burdon material. Time to write some new gags, folks. fsf
10 posted on 12/08/2002 10:54:07 AM PST by Free State Four
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11 posted on 12/08/2002 11:01:32 AM PST by geedee
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To: Free State Four
Perhaps they should have gather at ground zero sing their "Give peace a chance" message. Would some talented skilled person put their music to a video showing pictures of massacred Kurds and others killed by Saddam?

and about that part of Kansas--- That's how we got one of the few new Democrat governors. :(

13 posted on 12/08/2002 11:12:19 AM PST by eccentric
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To: Paul Atreides
I can't answer their question, but Jesus did say this (Lk 14.31-32):

Or what king, going to attack another king, does not first sit down and deliberate whether he is able with 10,000 men to oppose the one who is coming against him with 20,000? But if indeed he can't, while the other is still at a distance he sends a delegation and asks the terms of peace.

Saddam's situation is that of the king with 10,000.

14 posted on 12/08/2002 11:15:22 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: KS Flyover
these were probably some of the old hippies that infest Lawrence.

Some people just can't get over the fact that it's no longer 1968.

You have to wonder: if these people are so crazy about peace, why don't they go demonstrate against the folks who like to fly airliners into buildings, blow up women and children, and gas civilians? Why is that, huh?

15 posted on 12/08/2002 12:25:30 PM PST by Capriole
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To: Capriole
if these people are so crazy about peace, why don't they go demonstrate against the folks who like to fly airliners into buildings, blow up women and children, and gas civilians?

Yeah, but we're just extremist conservative right-wing nuts. What do we know? We aren't capable of undersanding the subtleties of unilateral peace.

There is something tremendously moral and uplifting about standing in a field singing Kumbaya while the other guys spray you with botulinum toxin. See, when that happens, our side gets the moral high ground. So even though we're dead, we still win.

Ask any liberal; this was all explained by Noam Chomsky and Ramsey Clark in their epic volume Cultural Suicide: the Case For Rolling Over and Dying.


16 posted on 12/08/2002 12:37:53 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: 45semi
Now that's funny! hehehehe
17 posted on 12/08/2002 12:42:47 PM PST by MHGinTN
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18 posted on 12/08/2002 1:44:15 PM PST by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
Is that guy in the center of that drawing Michael Moore? LOL thanks for the artwork.
19 posted on 12/08/2002 4:49:17 PM PST by axel f
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"Jim McConnell, a Navy veteran of the Gulf War, told rally participants that people who oppose an attack on Iraq have been appearing publicly once a week since August in his hometown of Wichita to show their feelings. McConnell said the protesters in Wichita have gotten an "overwhelming" response from the public, with passers-by often cheering, honking their car horns or giving them thumbs-up signs."

I want to know where and when this is supposedly happening. I haven't heard anything about this before.

Does anyone here have any ideas on where I can find out about this?

20 posted on 12/08/2002 4:59:32 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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