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Need Freeper Help in doing battle with Libs in my class. (ERA, NOW, and Phyllis Schafley)
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Posted on 12/05/2002 9:38:59 AM PST by King Nothing

Our class is entering the chapters containing the controversy over the Equal Rights Amendment. I need some good conservative talking points, and general info and help for battling my teacher who will no doubt come out swinging at Schafley and conservative women, while praising the abortionist feminazis. I'll need some good counterpoints to the arguement that supports it.
Thanks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: era; feminazis; schafley; schlafly
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Help me stop the indoctrination.
1 posted on 12/05/2002 9:39:00 AM PST by King Nothing
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To: King Nothing
First of all, find the recent Ann Coulter column on Schafley, which goes over some of her accomplishments, which are legion.
2 posted on 12/05/2002 9:40:48 AM PST by Timmy
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To: Timmy
I was just going to recommend that column - it was excellent. Additionally, Ann's book Slander hit on some good points as well.
3 posted on 12/05/2002 9:42:55 AM PST by Peach
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To: King Nothing
The biggest flaw in the ERA was its open-ended language. The proponents talked about how simple it was, but that was the problem. The term "rights" was undefined and could have led to a torrent of litigation over what any screwball might think was a right. We get enough of that thanks to liberal court decisions, let alone putting it right into the constitution by way of an amendment.
4 posted on 12/05/2002 9:43:17 AM PST by william clark
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To: King Nothing
Here are some links for you. Lots a good stuff here:

Early Outspoken Opponents of Abortion - all women

Great Pro-Life Answers to Pro-abortion Questions.

The Abortion Lies: Quotes from Abortionists and Abortion Clinic Workers (SHOCKING!!!)

The Best Article Ever Written About Abortion-The sisterhood, 27 years later

These are all abortion links. The facts in these links will annihilate any "pro-choice" argument imaginable.

5 posted on 12/05/2002 9:45:13 AM PST by Skooz
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To: King Nothing
Feminists for Life of America
7 posted on 12/05/2002 9:49:48 AM PST by hillsborofox
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To: hillsborofox; sauropod; hellinahandcart; KLT; Askel5
Further, the NOW crowd is a political arm of the 'Rats. Them and Emily's List. Go look at who is funded by them.

40 Million+ killed. May God have mercy on our country!

'Pod

8 posted on 12/05/2002 9:53:48 AM PST by sauropod
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To: King Nothing
How NOW as Ms. magazine have become irrelavent. Excellent article.
http://www.reason.com/0210/fe.cs.youve.shtml
9 posted on 12/05/2002 9:53:59 AM PST by cephalopod
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To: King Nothing
The main arguments against the ERA are:

(1) Its language is too vague and sweeping and

(2) the ills it is supposedly designed to remedy are already protected against by the Fourteenth Amendment.

Basically, the ERA gives Congress carte blanche to enage in social engineering on a broad scale.

Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

The language of the amendment is inherently self-contradictory. The Fourteenth Amendment guarantees the equality of all citizens before the law. Any "denial or abridgment" of this equal protection clause by any state or the federal government has a legal remedy.

The first part of the amendment therefore mandates an already-existing Constitutional provision.

The second part demonstrates the amendment's true intent: the enactment of sweeping legislation "enforcing" equality.

This paves the way for systems of preferences and quotas which "enforce" equality and "redress" perceived inequalities. It's a Pandora's box which will inexorably grow the size of government and increase its intrusion into citizens' private lives.

10 posted on 12/05/2002 9:55:54 AM PST by wideawake
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To: King Nothing
I went to see Schafley speak when I was a beginning freshman in the summer '79. She was terrific and she was heckled by ugly women. She was poised, lady-like and amazingly smart. She declared "the E.R.A. is a corpse!"

That night I was out at "Ricky's", a local hotspot and the beer wench was wearing a ERA button. I said "the E.R.A. is a corpse." She threw the beer in my face. True story.

As far as helping you, the great Ann Coulter wrote a piece about six months ago on her. That would be a great place to start.
11 posted on 12/05/2002 9:56:53 AM PST by BillCompton
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To: cephalopod
Wow. Excellent article. Has that been posted here before?
12 posted on 12/05/2002 9:57:17 AM PST by Skooz
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To: King Nothing
you can find Phylis Schlafly at eagleforum.com (I think). There is a wealth of info posted there....
13 posted on 12/05/2002 9:57:47 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sauropod
Hmmmmmmmmmmm....sounds like a problem POD...but we can fix their wagons!
14 posted on 12/05/2002 10:02:30 AM PST by KLT
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To: King Nothing
What rights do women not have compared to men? Ask them to name one. In fact, women's rights can be "MORE equal" or more important, than a man's rights. For example, who gets to decide if a child should be aborted? A man, or the woman? What about restraining orders?
15 posted on 12/05/2002 10:04:24 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: King Nothing; Christophe; william clark
Not only a potential open end in the interpretation of "rights," but there was much talk of the possible unintended consequences as supporters ran away from the ERA. Under a ratified ERA there was speculation that many areas of society would have come under assault, maybe even reversals for the NOW Nags. One huge area was the likelihood that the Draft Law would be challenged to the degree that draftees would comprise 50-50 men and women, to include the combat arms. Other challenges could have come in the traditional areas of school teaching, nursing and secretarial jobs, where the woman would possibly have also lost ground.
16 posted on 12/05/2002 10:13:34 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: King Nothing
Ask them how come women's right to vote required constitutional amendment, but the right to an abortion did not.
17 posted on 12/05/2002 10:19:34 AM PST by Huck
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To: sauropod
Abortion might have been ruled violative of the equal rights amendment because, statistically, more female babies are the targets of abortionists than are males - because women make up about 52% of the population. The fact that abortion is inherently unfair to women would be a fun jab at the Pro-ERA crowd.
18 posted on 12/05/2002 10:24:25 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: King Nothing
Who Said It? White Aryan Resistance Leader Tom Metzger or Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger? (Quiz + thread)

Quiz only

PDF Download of Killer Angel: A Biography of Planned Parenthood's Founder Margaret Sanger

Hope these help.

P.S. Bump the thread while you're there.

19 posted on 12/05/2002 10:24:33 AM PST by ru4liberty
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To: Sgt_Schultze
It's also racist because the prevalent race of the abortees is black.
20 posted on 12/05/2002 10:25:30 AM PST by sauropod
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