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You're mistaken.
NOTE: Please answer BOTH Questions 7 & 8.
Question 7: Is Person 1 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino?No, not Spanish/Hispanic/LatinoQuestion 8: What is Person 1's race?
Yes, Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano
Yes, other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino - Print group.
Yes, Puerto Rican
Yes, CubanWhite
Black, African Am., Negro
American Indian or Alaska Native - Print name of enrolled or principle tribe.
Asian Indian
Chinese
Filipino
Other Asian - Print race.
Japanese
Korean
Vietnamese
Native Hawaiian
Guamanian or Chamorro
Samoan
Other Pacific Islander - Print race.
"...Question: How does the Census Bureau define race and ethnicity?
Answer: Census Bureau complies with the Office of Management and Budget's standards for maintaining, collecting, and presenting data on race, which were revised in October 1997. They generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country. They do not conform to any biological, anthropological or genetic criteria.
In accordance with the Office of Management and Budget definition of ethnicity, the Census Bureau provides data for the basic categories in the OMB standards: Hispanic or Latino and Not Hispanic or Latino. In general, the Census Bureau defines ethnicity or origin as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person 's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States. People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race.According to the revised Office of Management and Budget standards noted above, race is considered a separate concept from Hispanic origin (ethnicity) and, wherever possible, separate questions should be asked on each concept..."
(The bold emphasis is mine.)
People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race...Such as Spanish Alaska Natives, Hispanic Japanese and Latino Koreans, one presumes. :o)
Such as... Hispanic Japanese... one presumes. :o)
As a matter of fact, yes. Latin America had Oriental immigration in the 1800's and 1900's as did the U.S.
Exhibit A:
Alberto Fujimori
President of Peru: 1990 - 2000
Born: Lima, Peru in 1938
Nickname: "El Chino" (Almost all Latin Americans of Oriental descent end up being nicknamed "El Chino" whether they are Chinese, Japanese or Korean.)
Blanco = White
Peninsular = White born in Spain
Criollo = White born in the colonies. The Peninsular had political rights that a Criollo did not. Thus, the Criollo son of a Peninsular father and mother had less legal rights than his parents. The purpose was to maintain a Spanish grip on the Colonies. The effect was rebellion against the Madre Patria.
Negro = Black
Mulato =Negro + Blanco cross
Indio = MesoAmerican Indian
Mestizo = Indio + Blanco cross
Cholo = Mestizo + Indio cross
Zambo = Negro + Indio cross
Chino = Zambo + Indio cross
Chino Asiatico = Oriental
Grifo = Zambo + Mulato cross
That’s the basic breakdown. If you wanted to get really picky about it, you used this racial classification system
The current U.S. racial system is as follows: If you have a Spanish surname, you are of the so-called Hispanic “Race”.
This of course, makes as much sense as declaring that if you have an English name, be it Andrew Jackson or Jesse Jackson, you are of the so-called Gringo “Race”.
Then again, Daisy Fuentes, the Cuban American bombshell does have a striking family resemblance to fellow Cuban "El Duque" Hernandez and Mexican Cesar Chavez.
Thank you for your email regarding the DPS sex offender web site.
There are only 4 recognized races of humans;
(W) White, (I) Indian, (A) Asian, and (B) Black.
Terms such as Latino or Hispanic refer to a persons nationality or country of origin, much the same as the term American would refer to a person from the US. As you can understand, all races have people with varying hair and eye colors, skin tones, etc.
I hope this may have been of some help.
Mike Weede
Arizona Department of Public Safety
Sex Offender Compliance Section
He didn't answer my other questions.
(W) White, (I) Indian, (A) Asian, and (B) Black.
Terms such as Latino or Hispanic refer to a persons nationality or country of origin, much the same as the term American would refer to a person from the US. As you can understand, all races have people with varying hair and eye colors, skin tones, etc.I wonder where that places aboriginal Australians, New Guineans, or Melanisians, to name a few.
I suppose Arabs are classified as "white," also. That's not much use in police work.
He didn't answer my other questions.Fine, let's grant all of this. Looking at the Latinos at the AZ Sex Offender site, it's clear that they have far more Indian heritage than Caucasian. The policy he's defending still doesn't pass the smell test.
Some here have split the ethnic/racial hairs by pointing out that the term Latino revolves mostly around a Spanish surname. However, it's clear that it's only on the basis of Spanish surnames that the sex offenders in question were classified as White and not Indian, where their photos clearly show their racial heritage lies.
What were your other questions?
Because of ethnic tensions in prisons, prisoners are often separated by ancestral background-- are Latinos placed with Blacks, with Whites, or separately?
06/01/2001
By Ed Timms / The Dallas Morning News
Official prison statistics in some states significantly underreport the number of minority inmates by counting Hispanics as whites, according to a new study.
"Counting Hispanic/Latinos as whites hides the magnitude of incarceration of people of color," said Barry Holman, the report's author. "What has been rather antiseptically referred to as a 'racial disparity' is really a gaping divide between whites and nonwhites that far outstrips minority levels in the population or in committing crime."
The report by the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives, a nonprofit group that examines criminal justice issues, criticized how several states, including New Mexico and Arizona, count their inmates. But Texas and California were held out as states that had changed their procedures and now have accurate counts.
The report tracked prison populations state-by-state between 1985 and 1997. Mr. Holman is director of public policy for the center.
"It doesn't take much for anyone to see that this is a big problem for the country at a time when Latinos, as the census has confirmed, [are] the largest ethnic minority and a very important part of the current and future workforce of the country," said Charles Kamasaki, senior vice president of the National Council of La Raza.
In August, the civil rights group began a study of the nation's criminal justice system and expects to issue a report in a few months.
Tommy Espinoza, a senior official with La Raza in Phoenix, said that many Hispanics "don't have the financial resources to litigate and probably deal with the undercurrent of discrimination in the system."
Recent controversy over alleged racial profiling by law enforcement officials, he said, may reflect what Hispanics confront throughout the criminal justice system. Mr. Kamasaki said he suspected that Hispanics were "lumped in with whites" in racial profiling to narrow the apparent disparity between whites and blacks.
According to the report released Thursday, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and New York were among the states having significantly higher minority inmate populations than official statistics suggest.
Texas and California both undercounted their Hispanic inmate populations in 1985, but later changed how they were counted. In 1997, the official count in those states accurately reflected inmate demographics, according to the report.
The report stated that New Mexico's prison population was reported as being 83 percent white in 1997, but the actual percentage was 28.9 percent. In Arizona, 79.6 percent of the inmates were reported as white in 1997, but the real figure was 30.8 percent. In 1997, New York reported that 43 percent of its inmates were white, but it was 18.3 percent. New York's prison population doubled between 1985 and 1997, and minorities accounted for more than 90 percent of the new prisoners.
The report also made several recommendations. Topping the list: "States and the federal government should adopt uniform guidelines for gathering and reporting prisoner data on race and ethnicity."
Sam Houston State University criminologist James W. Marquart said that tracking demographic trends in the prison population is useful to policy-makers and prison officials.
"If you're seeing a spike in the Hispanic population, you want to try to account for that ... and then develop policies to stem the tide," he said.
The Dallas Morning News
By Cindy Rodriguez, Globe Staff, 6/7/2001
Seven out of every 10 inmates locked up in the nation's prisons between 1985 and 1997 were black and Latino, a figure much higher than previously believed because prisons were counting Latino inmates as white, according to a first-of-its-kind national study.
Analysts at the Virginia-based National Center on Institutions and Alternatives found that US wardens overcounted the number of white inmates by more than 74,000 in 1997, the year their study focused on, giving the impression that whites represent 40.7 percent of all prisoners.
When Latinos were separated into a different group, the number of non-Latino whites in prison dropped to just 34.8 percent of the total. Virtually all the other inmates were Latino or black.
''Counting Latinos as whites hides the magnitude of incarceration of people of color,'' said Barry Holman, director of public policy for the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives, which advocates changes in the prison system. ''What has been rather antiseptically referred to as a racial disparity is really a gaping divide between whites and non-whites.''
The gap between black and white inmates is now nearly double what was previously believed. Blacks and Latinos make up nearly 70 percent of the nation's prison population today, yet account for just 25 percent of the American population.
On the other hand, whites seem to go to jail in smaller numbers than their share of serious crimes would indicate. During the 1990s, whites committed 56 percent of violent crimes and 62 percent of felonies in the United States, according to Justice Department statistics.
The ''overcount'' of white prisoners was most pronounced in heavily Latino states such as New Mexico, Colorado, and Arizona.
New Mexico, for example, recorded its prison population as being 83 percent white in 1997. But, once Latinos were excluded, it was 29 percent white.
Massachusetts used to count Latino inmates as white. By 1997, state prison officials began categorizing Latinos separately, giving a better picture of the inmate population. Today, it's 29 percent black, 22 percent Latino, 47 percent white, and 2 percent ''other.''
Most Latinos are of mixed-race heritage. The largest percentage of them are of Spanish and indigenous or ''Indian'' descent. Some, particularly those from the Caribbean, are of West African and European heritages. So they don't fit into one racial category.
Most of the increase in minority inmate population occurred during America's ''War on Drugs,'' which began in the mid-'80s and continues today. A majority of blacks and Latinos sent to prison during the mid-'80s to late '90s, according to FBI Uniform Crime Report statistics, were for nonviolent drug-related offenses. Between 1985 and 1997, the prison population tripled and 70 percent of the new inmates were non-white.
''We've spent a lot of money and we've wasted a lot of lives,'' said James Alan Fox, a criminologist who teaches at Northeastern University. ''The war on drugs was a failed policy which resulted in the overincarceration of drug offenders, most of whom are not dangerous.''
During the 1980s, Americans got high on cocaine at alarming rates. From Studio 54 in Manhattan to glam Hollywood parties, ''doing lines'' was in, and bigtime drug dealers found they could make a profit even in poor communities by selling a synthesized form of cocaine called crack.
While cocaine ravaged privileged communities behind closed doors, the damage to poor neighborhoods was more obvious in part because they didn't have access to the private rehab clinics and other sources, specialists say.
Dealers in suburban areas and on college campuses were sly about whom they sold to, Holman said, while teens in the city peddled on street corners, making them more likely to get caught.
''This is a problem created by the choice of policing to go into unempowered communities. If they did the same kind of policing on college campuses, parents would have a fit,'' Holman said. ''This isn't a war on drugs. It's a war on people.''
Roderick Harrison, a demographer for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a nonprofit think tank based in Washington, D.C., agrees.
''Most researchers agree that it's a misguided policy that has political appeal to a fearful population,'' Harrison said. ''Mass incarceration was not an effective policy for reducing drug use or trafficking. The same money put into treatment would have been much more effective.''
This story ran on page A3 of the Boston Globe on 6/7/2001.
© Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company.
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1. Caucasoid (European or "white")
2. Mongoloid (which includes the Chinese, Inuit or Eskimo, and Native Americans)
3. Negroid (black Africans)
4. Australoid (the Australian Aborigines)
Within each classification, there are many different sub-groups.
Latino or Hispanic is a sub-group of Caucasoid. Yes Americans and Mexicans are the same race.
For years and years, law enforcement has almost always Asian, black or White as a persons race.
So no, the Arizona Department of Public Safety is not reclassifying these peoples race. They are White, so they are classified as White.
Actually, there own admission reveals that they are incorrectly classifying these Latinos. From #69 above:
There are only 4 recognized races of humans;
(W) White, (I) Indian, (A) Asian, and (B) Black.
Terms such as Latino or Hispanic refer to a persons nationality or country of origin, much the same as the term American would refer to a person from the US. As you can understand, all races have people with varying hair and eye colors, skin tones, etc.
I hope this may have been of some help.
Mike Weede
Arizona Department of Public Safety
Sex Offender Compliance SectionIf you check the Latinos in the Sex Offender program, they're more clearly Indians than Caucasian.
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