Latino Sex Offenders turn Caucasian in Arizona

Arizona Department of Public Safety ^ | December 4th, 2002 | Comments by Sabertooth

[Sabertooth]

Something remarkable is happening to sexual predators in Arizona, if they happen to be Latino

At some point between conviction and placement on the official Arizona Sex Offender Website, Latinos are transformed into Caucasians.

Here are a few examples (mug shots and addresses omitted, but available on the site)

Ignacio  N.  Garza
Last Verified: 03-01-2002
Race: W	Age: 59	Sex: M
Height: 5' 8"	Weight: 150
Eyes: Bro	Hair: Blk
Risk Level:	(3) High
Offense(s): Sexual Assault
Convicting Jurisdiction: Graham County

ANY USE OF THIS INFORMATION TO THREATEN, INTIMIDATE, HARASS, OR CREATE A CRIMINAL ACT AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON WILL RESULT IN CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

Carlos A. Martinez
ABSCONDER
Click here if you have any information concerning this sex offender's whereabouts.
Race: W	Age: 32	Sex: M
Height: 5' 6"	Weight: 150
Eyes: Grn	Hair: Bro
Risk Level:	(3) High
Offense(s): Sexual Assault
Convicting Jurisdiction: Maricopa County

ANY USE OF THIS INFORMATION TO THREATEN, INTIMIDATE, HARASS, OR CREATE A CRIMINAL ACT AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON WILL RESULT IN CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

Felix F. Lopez  Jr.
Last Verified: 09-16-2002
Race: W	Age: 28	Sex: M
Height: 5' 10"	Weight: 175
Eyes: Bro	Hair: Blk
Risk Level:	(3) High
Offense(s): Indecent Exposure
Convicting Jurisdiction: Maricopa County

ANY USE OF THIS INFORMATION TO THREATEN, INTIMIDATE, HARASS, OR CREATE A CRIMINAL ACT AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON WILL RESULT IN CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

Notice that the racial designation for these sex offenders with Spanish surnames is "W," as in "White." The mugshots wouldn't link, but you can go look for yourself, these convicted Sexual Predators are unmistakably Latino.

Is it a reasonable expectation that Arizona police reports on sexual crimes routinely identify Latino suspects as being White?

So, why is the Arizona Department of Public Safety routinely classifying Latino sex offenders as being White? According to their website, there doesn't appear to be a Latino sex offender in the entire State of Arizona.

Don't believe me? Test it yourself.

Go to the Arizona Sex Offender Website.

Then click on "search" over on the left.

You'll get a dropdown menu. Choose "name."

In the search field, enter any Latino surname you can think of... Valdez, Jimenez, Gomez, etc. Submit Query.

Then click on one of the profiles that comes up. You'll get a mugshot of a Latino sex offender, with some vital statistics.

Then look at the perp's race. "W." Always "W."

Latino sex offenders in AZ are routinely being reclassified as Caucasians.

I wonder why? I wonder where else this is happening?

[mrustow]

Thanks for the ping -- great spade work, Sabe!

[Victoria Delsoul]

Latino is not a race. Latins could be white, brown, black, yellow or purple. Latin was the language spoken during the Roman Empire and spread throughout Italy, Spain, Portugal and France. People from these countries are referred to as Latin because their language is derived from Latin.

There is a difference between Latins and Hispanics. Hispanics are those who descended from Spaniards, and it refers to the people and culture of the Iberian Peninsula. Thus an Italian, Portuguese or French is Latin but not Hispanic.

Hispanic-Americans, may or may not speak Spanish. However, the term refers to people whose culture identifies them with the Spanish heritage.

Hispanics as well as Latins are not a race but an ethnic distinction.

[Sabertooth]

Hispanics as well as Latins are not a race but an ethnic distinction.

The problem, as noted in some of the posts above, is the the various governments aren't so shy about identifying Latinos on Census Forms, in school admissions, as the victims of hate crimes, or in police reports.

If you take a look at some of the sex offenders, their heritage is primarily not Caucasian. There are double-standards and dishonesty at work here.

[Sabertooth]

((((((growl)))))

Apologies to those who've already seen it.

[xm177e2]

This is standard operating procedure for the FBI, too. Their Uniform Crime Reports lump latinos in with whites.

[Victoria Delsoul]

The problem, as noted in some of the posts above, is that the various governments aren't so shy about identifying Latinos on Census Forms, in school admissions, as the victims of hate crimes, or in police reports.

I know that the government used this term in forms and census to identify people with Spanish heritage. Let me just emphasize that Hispanics or Latins are not a race. They come from all races and physical traits. The name Hispanic is just a translation of the Old World word Hispania (Spanish).

[Sabertooth]

I know that the government used this term in forms and census to identify people with Spanish heritage. Let me just emphasize that Hispanics or Latins are not a race. They come from all races and physical traits. The name Hispanic is just a translation of the Old World word Hispania (Spanish).

Understood. Would you have a problem with a Latino designation for ethnicity, rather than race?

Police reports and associated criminal reporting are one of the very few places where I think the government should be getting into the business of racial or ethnic designations, as they are used to help law enforcement agents and the public identify supects, convicts, and parolees by their physical characteristics. It's crucial to crime fighting.

The purpose of the sex offender registries is to help the public be aware of potential threats in their neighborhoods. Is it really helpful for the registries to pretend that Latinos are White?

[Victoria Delsoul]

Is it really helpful for the registries to pretend that Latinos are White?

Are you saying that there are not white Latinos?

[SSN558]

Technically all Hispanics are Caucasians. There is not a race of Hispanics any more than there is a race of Italians or Germans. This rule is not applied however on affirmative action programs, where Hispanics are held separate and therfore entitled to special privledges not afforded to other ordinary Caucasians. Unless of course you are Hispanic and an illegal alien, in which case you have absolutely no rights whatsoever, depending on state law.

Ah letame see now, ah where was I....oh yeh...The Urban Legend about the Air Force Captain that had his name changed to a Hispanic surname to get preference on an SBA loan....That is true I went to school with him in 1980.

[Sabertooth]

Are you saying that there are not white Latinos?

No. I'm saying that Latino is a useful ethnic/racial designation for law enforcement, as are White, Black, Asian, Middle Eastern, etc.

If you take a look at the AZ website, or the websites I mentioned at #35, sex offenders are being designated as White who would not be described as such by any reasonable person.

I would have no problem with someone with the physical appearance of Enrique Iglesias being desginated as White. But that's not what's happening here.

The purpose of the information on those websites is to identify sex predators to the general public. What is the possible benefit of giving misleading information?

[Victoria Delsoul]

The purpose of the information on those websites is to identify sex predators to the general public. What is the possible benefit of giving misleading information?

Then my dear, you should make your complaint to them. ;-) I agree btw, he isn't white so they should classify him as black Latino or mestizo Latino or whatever race he belongs to.

[Sabertooth]

Then my dear, you should make your complaint to them. ;-)

Already have. So have others. No response.

That's why it's good to kick open the doors on a thread like this and let the Sun in on such PC nonsense.

[Victoria Delsoul]

and let the Sun in …

As much as you want.

[Nea Wood]

The Urban Legend about the Air Force Captain that had his name changed to a Hispanic surname to get preference on an SBA loan....

I'm sure this happens a lot. A few years ago, there were some news stories about Anglos who wanted to work as news anchors and couldn't get hired, so they changed their last names to Hispanic names. Then and only then did they get hired! Nobody seemed upset about the fact that whites with Anglo surnames were apparently being discriminated against; the scandal was that these Anglos were taking jobs that Hispanics had the "right" to.

Back in the '70s I worked for a company that gave preferences to people with "Spanish surnames" in hiring and promotions. I knew a guy whose last name was Rodriguez, but only because his stepfather was named Rodriguez and had adopted him. The guy was not "Hispanic" at all, but because his name was Rodriguez, he benefited at work and fully took advantage of it. Then this same guy would complain about women getting promotions just because they were women!

Go figure. It's a crazy world. I wonder if we'll ever stop this insanity and start judging, hiring, and promoting people on the basis of merit only.

[patriot5186]

that's true. by NOT recording the Hispanic crime they cannot be held responsible for the illegals crossing the borders to commit these crimes...since they don't keep statistics on them.

[TLI]

I think your response to the osbervation is, as they say, "FULL OF IT."

TLI, Certifted CNA, CNE, CCNA, MCSE.....

[A CA Guy]

Didn't we do this Arizona inmate deal 3-4 months or more ago?
I think you sent me this before, right?

In CA they came up correct as far as I can see.
Arizona is still a joke.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

I'm a current government worker (local).

Other White

Spanish Surname

Asian/Pacific Islander

African American

Decline to state (an option)

[rmlew]

Mexico was colonized by Spanish, but they were never a majority. The Natives existed and the Spanish imported thousands of African slaves.

[WRhine]

Technically all Hispanics are Caucasians.

To my knowledge this is not so. Hispanics of today are the descendants of the early Mongoloid (Asian) tribes that crossed the Bearing Straits more than 10 thousand of years ago and spread throughout the Americas. Sure, with the Spanish conquest of Central and South America there is a Caucasian element among most Hispanics but it is not dominant.