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[Polycarp]

My school is associated with Temple University Medical School, an MD school. Medicare defines a podiatrist as a physician.

I am licenced to perform any medical treatment, including the presciption of any drug and performing of any surgery, related to the foot and ankle. Chiropractors, on the other hand, are not allopathic physicians.

And you? What qualifies you to collect, interpret and opine upon data on a medical topic?

And do you honestly think you can undermine the validity of MD researchers' findings simply because they are posted on this forum by a lowly podiatrist like myself?

[Polycarp]

or are admitted to any hospital to do that.

Actually, in PA I can admit patients to hospitals, and I have surgical privileges at all our local hospitals to do any surgery an orthopedic surgeon can or would do on the foot and ankle.

And you? What qualifies you to collect, interpret and opine upon data on a medical topic?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Pretty much the same as yours, boyo.

Glad you clarified that your area of expertise is limited to the foot and ankle.

Now tell us your prior research and discovery of syndromes and conditions of the foot and ankle which distinguishes you from any schmoe on the street - or are you simply puffing your credentials?

[Polycarp]

You are a Podiatrist or other allied health practitioner with a doctorate degree, licenced to prescribe, do surgery, and otherwise engage in non-supervised allopathic medicine?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

You're beginning to shriek.

I get the point. You can work on the foot and ankle, and use Doctor at the front of your name. You can't, however, admit someone to the hospital for a birth, a surgery involving the abdomen, or a surgery on the breasts. You're not a pharmacologist, or someone who is trained in and understands the female reproductive system and the pharmacology which affects the organs.

[rmmcdaniell]

ANYONE who is pro-life should oppose chemical birth control. Life begins at conception, and as soon as the sperm and egg join a human life -- complete with soul -- is created. And at that moment, this small human person must be protected.

What does your faith tell you about chimeric individuals? Do they have two souls or just one? In case your wondering a chimera is what results when two separately fertilized eggs fuse together shortly after the independent conception events and develop into a single individual. Its sort of the opposite of identical twinning, where a single fertilized egg splits and develops into two individuals. Don't percieve this as an attack on your beliefs, I'm pro-life. I'm just curious as to how you would view such a situation.

[agrace]

What about said attachment makes the difference, in your opinion? Why is it life after attachment as opposed to before? When does the fertilized egg have unique, never before compiled DNA?

Bottom line is, the pill is considered an abortifacient because it has the ability to make the uterine wall uninhabitable for the already fertilized egg, technically causing an abortion. Your issue is with the medical profession that terms it as such, not with catholics.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

You ain't chit til you know how to treat athletes foot, bubba.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

I want to see all the extreme pro-lifers do something to improve the lives of all the unwanted babies born that
will be abandoned, abused or killed after they are born, and I repeat, I am against abortion.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

Thank you!

[Gophack]

No the intent of the pill is to prevent ovulation, which sometimes occurs anyway. Anything that happens to the conceptus after that is UNintentioned.

Any so-called "unwanted" pregnancy is "unintended" ... most unplanned pregnancies are with people using artificial contraceptives (either properly or not).

Are you pro-life? If so, then any unintended pregnancy is still a human life and therefore should be protected. What if the couple were using a condom? The pregnancy is unintended, perhaps they should be allowed to abort? What is a sperm slips through the diaphram? If you aren't pro-life, we have a completely different argument.

Yesterday in my town a mother left her sleeping five year old alone while taking her other kids to school. The trailer burned down with the child inside. It was unintended -- should she be let off scot free?

[Gophack]

Many pro-lifers do help. I strongly support the local crisis pregnancy center because they help women who choose life to not only have their babies and be healthy, but to pull their lives together, find a place to live, reconcile with their family if possible, find a job, learn to be a good parent.

I have a close friend who volunteers at a home for pregnant teens, a home which doesn't abandon the babies or moms on delivery.

I know many people who are trying to adopt, and are willing to adopt sibling groups, older kids, any child who needs a loving home.

Yes, we have a lot to do. All of us. Abortion is never the answer. Prayer and a helping hand is always the answer.

I do believe that the increase in abortions and the promulgation of this Culture of Death we live in has done more to increase child abuse than any other societial factor. We don't care about each other, we don't love our neighbors and enemies, and THAT is truly a great sin.

[Gophack]

There is no life UNTIL the egg is fertilized, yes. But life isn't miraculously created once the zygote attaches to the uterus, that is simply another process in the development of the baby.

Using your argument, the morning after pill is OK because the zygote doesn't attach to the uterus for 1-2 weeks after conception. So, you support abortion until 2 weeks.

Life begins at conception because the egg and sperm united immediately start dividing and growing into multiple cells. By the time the zygote attaches to the wall of the uterus, there are hundreds of thousands of cells that have already started differentiating. To say that only at attachment does life begin, you are arbitrarily coming up with a definition of life.

[Gophack]

I'm not a theologian, but I would imagine since God knows everything that is going to happen, that He knew the eggs would join and takes care of the situation as He thinks best.

God bless.

[Gophack]

Get a Grip!

Thank you, I believe I have a grip when it comes to this issue.

Abortion is an evil and murderous act, no matter how small the baby.

[realpatriot71]

I'm pro-life for the most part. However, I don't think human life as we know it begins at conception. It's been my position that in order to be human life there must be enough embryonic development to be able to think, feel, love, reason - all the things that make us human. What I do know is that at 8 weeks everything is in place. You are a small human being at that point, what occurs mostly from that point on is that your organ systems develop fully and get bigger, but the organ systems themselevs are in place. So this lead me to believe that brain function could actually be taking place, so at this point we obviously have small human being subject the rights of every American, including life. Since I have no way of knowing exactly when this change takes, and since it is complete by 8 weeks, the change must occur around this time, but since I have no idea of knowing when I'm against any abortion of an implanted fetus. I have no way of knowing when the development of the brain is enough at that point. However, I also know that before implanation there are no developments taking place only cell replication and differentiation. So I do not view life as human before implanation and have no problems with contraception.

It's always been my position that women DO have a choice - a choice to have sex, a choice to use or not use contrception, but once you're pregnant with an implanted embryo, that's a new life and subject to all the protections under the law that anyone else is.

I used to be pro-choice, but a graduate level human embryology class will change all that in a hurry.

[realpatriot71]

Attachment is @ 7 days :-)

[flyervet]

I'm not a theologian, but I would imagine since God knows everything that is going to happen, that He knew the eggs would join and takes care of the situation as He thinks best.

So then, if God knows everything that will happen, including which pregnancies will end in abortion, he must think that abortion is good, right?

[Morrigan]

You are wrong. The pill does not change the lining of the uterus. The pill prevents women from ovulating. This means no egg is released at all. Women do not have periods while on the pill. The bleeding they experience is due to stopping the pill for the designated week. It is like a side effect. If a woman took her pills continuously, without skipping a week, she would not have a "period" at all.

[victim soul]

Do you have an idea how much estrogen is found in Morning After Pills?