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Monday, 12/2, Market WrapUp (Higher sales don't equal bigger profits)
Financial Sense Online ^ | 12/2/2002 | James J. Puplava

Posted on 12/02/2002 4:36:32 PM PST by rohry

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"In the Fed’s Grand Experiment to fight off deflation and burn the currency, the public is being rewarded to borrow and consume; while savers and investors are being punished by negative returns. The Fed has indicated and alerted Wall Street that it will monetize assets in the bond market to keep interest rates fixed or within a narrow range."
1 posted on 12/02/2002 4:36:32 PM PST by rohry
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2 posted on 12/02/2002 4:37:33 PM PST by rohry
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The Fed has indicated and alerted Wall Street that it will monetize assets in the bond market to keep interest rates fixed or within a narrow range.

What is this and how do they do it? Is it like a second mortgage on the house?

3 posted on 12/02/2002 4:39:43 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: rohry
I picked up DVD Players at Circuit City for $49 last Thursday. They had them stacked up practically to the ceiling right by the doors as you come in. They were priced to move and they did!
4 posted on 12/02/2002 4:39:50 PM PST by SamAdams76
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WHAT BRAND NAME? Apex?
5 posted on 12/02/2002 4:42:13 PM PST by donozark
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Make that Friday that I was there. Thursday was Thanksgiving Day, of course.

Anyway, the entire weekend went by way too damn fast.

6 posted on 12/02/2002 4:42:41 PM PST by SamAdams76
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Yes, it was the APEX model. I couldn't believe the price. I know APEX is not exactly a well-known brand name but how can you go wrong for $49.99? There are DVDs that cost more than that. The Godfather trilogy will still set you back $99.
7 posted on 12/02/2002 4:47:05 PM PST by SamAdams76
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All I think of when they talk about people spending more money is that the bankruptcies are going to skyrocket next year.
8 posted on 12/02/2002 4:53:18 PM PST by Sungirl
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I got my Best Buy Cyberhome brand for the $39.95 now I'm waiting to retire ol' Red the pickup with a zero percent forever loan, which I'm sure is coming soon.
9 posted on 12/02/2002 4:54:55 PM PST by junta
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Fed’s Grand Experiment to fight off deflation and burn the currency

I remember when Fed was zealously fighting "potential" inflation by raising the interest rate many times (in 2000). Fed did it long after the stocks started to collapse. Now Fed is doing the reverse.

I wonder if such pattern of intervention does not increase the size of pendulum swings? Maybe Jude Wanniski is right, suggesting that the gold at a fixed price should be a reference? (In other words money should be issued to keep price of gold fixed?)

10 posted on 12/02/2002 5:09:00 PM PST by A. Pole
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Don't have a clue what the Grand Experiment means, but I know damn well what this little tidbit means:
The bond market isn’t the only problem the Fed has to face it may also have to start monetizing all of the governments debt. The official debt limit of $6.45 trillion is about one month away from being breached. Passed late spring, the debt limit has been raised by $450 billion. Tjhere is only about $60 billion of that left. This means that when Congress returns after the holiday recess, they will have to raise the debt limit by another trillion dollars just to be safe.
More taxes.
11 posted on 12/02/2002 5:25:23 PM PST by steveegg
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"What is this and how do they do it? Is it like a second mortgage on the house?"

It's called printing money to finance the national debt instead of selling bonds. It's called inflation, only the fed can create inflation. Wages nd prices are an after the fact result of their horrid policy.

That's what they did durring the Carter years.


12 posted on 12/02/2002 5:26:48 PM PST by dalereed
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We should expect inflation at some point. The Federal debt can be brought under control in that way, as well as private debt. Those on fixed income will starve, of course.
13 posted on 12/02/2002 5:30:36 PM PST by RightWhale
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Wages and prices are an after the fact result of their horrid policy.

But now wages and prices could be falling. If inflation is bad, is deflation so great?

14 posted on 12/02/2002 5:32:26 PM PST by A. Pole
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If the fed fires up the presses and we return to the Carter years, i'll leverage what I have into real estate. Used right, inflation is a real wealth creator.
15 posted on 12/02/2002 5:39:53 PM PST by dalereed
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"If inflation is bad, is deflation so great?"

If wages fall in relation to prices it's good as potentially it puts you into a lower tax bracket resulting in greater purchasing power per hour worked.
16 posted on 12/02/2002 5:42:24 PM PST by dalereed
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"What is this and how do they do it?" This is what Federal Reserve Governor Ben Bernanke had to say:

As I have mentioned, some observers have concluded that when the central bank's policy rate falls to zero--its practical minimum--monetary policy loses its ability to further stimulate aggregate demand and the economy. At a broad conceptual level, and in my view in practice as well, this conclusion is clearly mistaken. Indeed, under a fiat (that is, paper) money system, a government (in practice, the central bank in cooperation with other agencies) should always be able to generate increased nominal spending and inflation, even when the short-term nominal interest rate is at zero.

The conclusion that deflation is always reversible under a fiat money system follows from basic economic reasoning. A little parable may prove useful: Today an ounce of gold sells for $300, more or less. Now suppose that a modern alchemist solves his subject's oldest problem by finding a way to produce unlimited amounts of new gold at essentially no cost. Moreover, his invention is widely publicized and scientifically verified, and he announces his intention to begin massive production of gold within days. What would happen to the price of gold? Presumably, the potentially unlimited supply of cheap gold would cause the market price of gold to plummet. Indeed, if the market for gold is to any degree efficient, the price of gold would collapse immediately after the announcement of the invention, before the alchemist had produced and marketed a single ounce of yellow metal.

What has this got to do with monetary policy? Like gold, U.S. dollars have value only to the extent that they are strictly limited in supply. But the U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or, today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost. By increasing the number of U.S. dollars in circulation, or even by credibly threatening to do so, the U.S. government can also reduce the value of a dollar in terms of goods and services, which is equivalent to raising the prices in dollars of those goods and services. We conclude that, under a paper-money system, a determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation. ......If we do fall into deflation, however, we can take comfort that the logic of the printing press example must assert itself, and sufficient injections of money will ultimately always reverse a deflation."

Bernanke goes on to point out that the Fed could also supply interest free loans to banks, monetize foreign assets, buy government agency bonds, private corporate assets or any number of things that could induce inflation.

17 posted on 12/02/2002 5:42:56 PM PST by rohry
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Used right, inflation is a real wealth creator.

It can be, no doubt about it.

18 posted on 12/02/2002 5:43:03 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: rohry
One reporter from the floor of the NYSE called it a “no common sense” rally. The worse the news, the lower the earnings, the greater the political risks, the higher the market would go. However, it is taking intervention and a collective leave of your senses buying of a few key select large cap stocks to drive the markets higher.

There is a real push on to keep the market up at least until the end of the year. I believe that it has been well planned, coordinated and executed. The goal seems to be to avoid yet another negative year for the averages. Reality doesn't matter. The media has become nothing more than the propaganda arm of Wall Street and government. The spin, excitement and hype is almost too obvious.

TXN is trading over $20 in AH on news that its revenues won't DECLINE AS MUCH AS previously estimated. With media spin and hype, that is accepted as a positive.

Texas Instruments Raises Outlook

The headline is blatantly deceptive and misleading. I find this continuing scamming of the public disturbing.

Richard W.

19 posted on 12/02/2002 5:44:37 PM PST by arete
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monetize foreign assets, buy government agency bonds, private corporate assets

In other words, sell these assets and put money in circulation here, or buy back bonds here, both public and private and put money in circulation.

20 posted on 12/02/2002 5:47:12 PM PST by RightWhale
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