Complete BCS chaos still possible(Hey Irish, "Get out of Iowa's bowl!")

cbs sportsline ^ | 12/1/02 | dennis dodd

[Diddle E. Squat]

Once again the fraud that is the BCS teeters on the brink of absurdity. I hope it all implodes.

[Paradox]

Its a joke, a 4 loss FSU going to a BCS bowl. Had they lost against the Gators, that would have been a FIVE LOSS team going to a major bowl?!?!

Bull Chit System...

[Vidalia]

Really tired of hearing the "BCS" over and over again.

Every damn year there is a new set of initialized importance.

Yeah, it's BCS and the initials have been around for a couple of years or so, but what the Fructose do the letters "BCS" actually stand for?

Bring back the SWC...

[PMCarey]

What a crock of a system. All true college football fans should pray for chaos.

[Jonathon Spectre]

Its a joke, a 4 loss FSU going to a BCS bowl. Had they lost against the Gators, that would have been a FIVE LOSS team going to a major bowl?!?!

One of those losses is by one point to Miami, a game FSU should have won. Another was a gift to Notre Dame at the height of FSU's internal dissension and chaos. One is at Louisville in a hurricane. The NC State game, well, FSU just sucked. Based on what happened to the mighty, world-beating Gators in Tallahassee I'd not want to be on the team lining up against the 'Noles in a bowl game.

A playoff makes all this moot. BCS is a sham, but the BCS rules say the ACC champ goes to a BCS bowl.

[socal_parrot]

Iowa should be in the Rose Bowl, if they're not in the championship game. Big Ten teams travel well. SC doesn't travel well. A BCS bowl taking Notre Dame, ranked out of the top 10, would once again prove that the BCS is a sham.

[InvisibleChurch]

why nd? ratings = $

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I can see the Onion headlines now:

"Notre Dame uses Trojans to get into Sugar Bowl. Pictures at 11."

[Tennessee_Bob]

Oh, very good - now I have to get diet Coke out of my keyboard. Thanks

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I owe ya a diet coke when I pass thatta way!

[Ol' Sparky]

The idea Notre Dame could even be considered for a bowl game after getting their asses handed to them by USC is absolute joke. It shows that ratings are far more important than merit with the politicos that run college football.

Iowa was the better team in the Big Ten than Ohio State, deserve to be ranked third and if Hawkeyes aren't in a major bowl, it will be more proof of what a farce the whole BSC is.

It's way past time for a real playoff system. Making money off a playoff system will not be a problem.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Pour some shook up Raman,
In the name of love...

[Diddle E. Squat]

Here's the ultimate practical playoff system:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/601335/posts


In a nutshell:

My opinion is that the conferences should demand at the next contract that the BCS rating system, not the bowls themselves, determine the 8 participating teams(thus no more of this Notre Dame mystique BS bribing their way into where they don't belong). The bowls can retain the decision of dividing the 8 among themselves. ABC should demand a post-bowls 3-game playoff of the 4 winners. To lure the conferences to the playoff proposal, ABC can sweeten the deal by proposing a 4 team at-large playoff round(preferably the week after the conference championship games, or concurrently if logistics demand) to determine the final two BCS teams(the conference champs being the first 6 to qualify). Money from playoff games to be divided among the 6 participating conferences. There will never be more than 4 non-conference champs(or independents/minor conference members) with stong claims to being legitimate national champion contenders.

Can be fine-tuned and expanded later, but at least we get an 8 or 10 team playoff to start.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Assuming all teams win out next week, here are the results of the current system: Orange-OU/ND, Sugar-UGA/FSU, Fiesta-Miami/OSU, Rose-WSU/Iowa

Results under my simple playoff proposal: In 2 weeks we have USC hosting Texas and Iowa hosting K. State. Excellent games. Assuming home teams win: Orange-OU/FSU, Sugar-UGA/USC Fiesta-Miami/OSU, Rose-WSU/Iowa. Better games, and the top 9 teams all make the playoffs. What team with a legitimate NC shot is left out? None. And any team winning their 3 playoff games(or 4 if they are a non-conference champ) would be totally indisputed as national champions(well, excepting perhaps a tuck-rule incident).

[Paradox]

A playoff makes all this moot. BCS is a sham, but the BCS rules say the ACC champ goes to a BCS bowl.

Of course the rules say they should go, but the fact of the matter is, the rules are whacked, thats why the BCS sucks!

4 losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, there are many teams who deserve a bowl appearance over FSU, sorry. FSU, this year, was a shadow of its former self, they themselves would even admit to that.

[Paradox]

Oh yeah, one more thing..

One of those losses is by one point to Miami, a game FSU should have won.

Uh, no, COULD have won. Everyone seems to forget the fact that the entire final drive was setup by a shanked punt by Miami, a 3 yard unforced punt. Then there was a couple of plays that drive that were prayers answered, a lucky throw and catch.. sheesh, luck goes both ways my friend. Their string of luck on that drive ended with a missed 43 yard field goal, which ISN'T a gimme by any means. I'll bet there are far more missed 43 yard field goals than there are 3 yard punts..

[dfwgator]

Based on what happened to the mighty, world-beating Gators

Trust me, as a Gator as long as Zook is the coach, the world will beat the Gators (except Georiga, of course)

[dfwgator]

Why is that that Divisions II and III have playoffs but not division I. Nah, instead we settle for bowl games in half-filled stadiums.

[Dog Gone]

Okay, I don't see the logic at all why a USC supporter should root for Miami next week, but I'll do as I'm told....

[Moosehead]

Why do all Florida State fans whine so much when they get beat?