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To: wewereright
It's bad enough what the Israelis are doing in the occupied lands - but why should I have to help pay the cost?

First of all, the land belongs to Israel for the simple reason that they won it in battle (that the Arabs initiated). Do you have a problem with land won in this manner? If so, and to be consistent, perhaps you should get the hell out of the U.S....for after all, we did win our land in battles with Native Americans.

Secondly, when you and your ilk start protesting about the amount of money the American taxpayer gives to a terrorist sponsoring state (Egpyt, $2 billion/yr) and an actual terrorist organization (The PA, $500 million/yr) instead of just focusing solely on the amount we give to the only western democracy in the region (Israel), then perhaps your argument would have some validity. As it is now, you just look like an ignorant fool.

103 posted on 12/01/2002 11:58:16 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
Actually, in the Suez Crisis and the 6 Day War, the Israelis attacked first. It is a complete myth that Israel's wars have been solely defensive. Also, by attempting to steal the land in the first place, by swamping it with illegal immigrants (is this starting to sound familiar to what is going on in the USA today?), it was the Isrealis who initiated the conflict.

And you forgot (or never understood) that our tax money going to Egypt and the PA is going at the behest, and in the interests of, the Israelis. The money given to Egypt and the PA is bribe money to keep them subservient to Isreali interests.

It has worked in the case of Egypt, but not in the case of the PA, because unlike the Egyptians, the Israelis are actively pursuing a policy of ethnically cleansing the Palestinians, by a gradual process of colonization via settlements, and expulsion, land seizures, state terrorism (using weapons paid for by the US taxpayer, rather than suicide bombers), and economic strangulation. Under these circumstances, our bribe money to the PA is insufficient to prevent them (or other, non-PA forces) from striking back at the Israelis with whatever weapons they have (very few, which is why suicide bombers are used; it is the one weapon they have which has any effect).

Under such circumstances, we have just as much right to object to the detrimental effects of our tax dollars being used to fund Israeli aggression in the Occupied Territories, as we do of aid money going to Egypt or the PA. If we were not bound, hand and foot, in subservience to the Israeli lobby, we would not have to send billions of dollars every year, either to Israeli, or to our subservient or would-be subservient clients in Egypt and Palestine. If we weren't being dragged into this mess by treasonous forces within our country's elites, we wouldn't have to give a penney to either side.

To h_ll with both sides: they are getting, or will get, precisely what they deserve. There is no need for us to be dragged down with them.

109 posted on 12/01/2002 12:55:40 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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