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Reefer Madness (WHINY STONER ALERT)
New York Slimes ^ | 11/30/02 | BILL KELLER

Posted on 11/29/2002 9:11:58 PM PST by Sparta

e interrupt our coverage of the war on terrorism to check in with that other permanent conflict against a stateless enemy, the war on drugs. To judge by the glee at the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, the drug warriors have just accomplished the moral equivalent of routing the Taliban — helping to halt a relentless jihad against the nation's drug laws.

Ballot initiatives in Ohio (treatment rather than prison for nonviolent drug offenders), Arizona (the same, plus making marijuana possession the equivalent of a traffic ticket, and providing free pot for medical use) and Nevada (full legalization of marijuana) lost decisively this month. Liberalization measures in Florida and Michigan never even made it to the ballot.

Some of this was due to the Republican election tide. Some was generational — boomer parents like me, fearful of seeing our teenagers become drug-addled slackers. (John Walters, the White House drug czar, shrewdly played on this anxiety by hyping the higher potency of today's pot with the line, "This is not your father's marijuana.") Some may have been a reluctance to loosen any social safety belts when the nation is under threat. Certainly a major factor was that proponents of change, who had been winning carefully poll-tested ballot measures, state by state, since California in 1996, found themselves facing a serious and well-financed opposition, cheered on by Mr. Walters.

The truly amazing thing is that 30 years into the modern war on drugs, the discourse is still focused disproportionately on marijuana rather than more important and excruciatingly hard problems like heroin, cocaine and methamphetamines.


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I've got the flame suit on, so flame away.
1 posted on 11/29/2002 9:11:58 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
The drug warriors are the Taliban.
2 posted on 11/29/2002 9:15:03 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
The drug warriors are the Taliban.

I thought we were Nazis.

3 posted on 11/29/2002 9:17:17 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Sparta
" If you've got a sudden mania, to sell me Pennsylvania, I believe you've met the reefer man.."
4 posted on 11/29/2002 9:20:16 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Sparta
No flame here. As a Nevada opinion-maker (supposedly), I favored the measure. No doubt if you have pot sold in state liqour stores, legally, to people over 21, at much less than they csn get it from the friend-of-a-friend ... well, that's okay...

But guess what? ....

Whether it deals with pot or any other "comfort" issue ...

THERE'S A WAR ON, MORON!!!

We'll do the "lifestyle" stuff when that's over, okay?

5 posted on 11/29/2002 9:20:36 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: Sparta
Re: Ballot initiatives in Ohio, Arizona, and Nevada lost decisively this month. Liberalization measures in Florida and Michigan never even made it to the ballot.

Because stoners don't vote, dude!
Now stop gurgling the bong water and get a job!

6 posted on 11/29/2002 9:29:18 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: Texasforever
Me: The drug warriors are the Taliban.

You: I thought we were Nazis.

You're mistakenly using the past tense.

The Taliban and drug warriors seek to impose their will upon others for no good reason except their desire to dictate to others. Now tell me why Jews or drug users or anyone else who doesn't conform to your concept of correctness and causes no direct harm to others should be subject to your world view?

7 posted on 11/29/2002 9:32:37 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: JennysCool
THERE'S A WAR ON, MORON!!!

We'll do the "lifestyle" stuff when that's over, okay?


War on, moron.  Heh.  I liked that.  
Nevertheless, it seems churlish, to say
the least, for Ashcroft and his troops
to be treating the Tenth Amendment
as being purely optional in the face of
state governments explicitly legalizing
medical marijuana usage.  The law
is in place.  Get back to Washington
and fight the damned war.
8 posted on 11/29/2002 9:34:35 PM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I'll grant ya that ... But while the present situation exists, i doubt things like marijuana referendums are going to go far ... when we're back to "normal" (NORML?) is when to spring them babies ...
9 posted on 11/29/2002 9:39:25 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Now tell me why Jews or drug users

I think Jews may quibble a bit with that comparison.

10 posted on 11/29/2002 9:39:28 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Sparta
The fact that these things even make it to the ballot tells me that I have to re-examine the demographics of these Western states. Seems to me the good folk of our SW ought to be organizing a posse about now.
11 posted on 11/29/2002 9:44:37 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Texasforever
we were Nazis.

Perhaps you were, but I think most Texans were patriotic Americans.

12 posted on 11/29/2002 9:50:50 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: JennysCool
That may not be correct. The FBI recently announced a transfer of resources away from the Drug War. If some transfer of those resources is good, more should be better. If there is a war on, it is time to focus.
13 posted on 11/29/2002 10:20:15 PM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
Well, perhaps, but my guess is that any transfer from the drug war is probably made to assist Cristina and Brintey in that current battle against the ingrates copying their cd's. we HAVE our priorities, you know ... :-)
14 posted on 11/29/2002 10:54:00 PM PST by JennysCool
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