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PRESIDENT BUSH SURPRISES PRO-LIFE LEADERS BY SELECTING KISSINGER FOR 9-11 POST
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | November 29, 2002 | LifeSiteNews.com

Posted on 11/29/2002 6:39:31 PM PST by Polycarp

PRESIDENT BUSH SURPRISES PRO-LIFE LEADERS BY SELECTING KISSINGER FOR 9-11 POST

Kissinger Strongly Implicated in Population Control and Abortion

WASHINGTON, November 29, 2002 (LifeSiteNews.com) - U.S. President George W. Bush announced Wednesday that he had selected former secretary of state Henry Kissinger as chairman of a new independent commission to investigate the September 11 attacks. Pro-life leaders were surprised by the selection given the President's aversion to coercive abortion and Kissinger's close association with it.

President Bush was praised by the pro-life community internationally for his defunding of the United Nations Population Fund due to their association with the forced abortion and coercive sterilization practices in China. However, Kissinger was intimately associated with coercive population control as he is the author of the now-declassified national security study memorandum calling for population control - coercive if necessary, in the third world.

Gilles Grondin, a veteran United Nations diplomat and past President of Le Mouvement en faveur de la Vie/Campaign Quebec Vie, (the pro-life movement in Quebec), told LifeSite that he was surprised by President Bush's selection of Kissinger. Grondin, who with his vast UN experience has been one of the most successful pro-life lobbyists at the UN, points out that Kissinger's memo NSSM 200 formed the basis of U.S. foreign policy in the area of population.

Grondin explained that the Memorandum suggested that competition from new world powers would rise when developing nations had sufficient populations to utilize their national resources to their full potential. Thus, NSSM 200 was about ensuring U.S. strategic, economic, and military interest, at the expense of developing countries, by proposing population control including by coercive means if mere propaganda could not succeed.

For more on NSSM 200 including the actual document see LifeSite at:

http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/nssm200/index.html

See Bush's announcement of his selection of Kissinger: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/11/20021127-1.html


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To: Polycarp
Yep, just like that first great Liberal, who coined those immortal "socialistic" words,

"What soever you do to the least of my brethren, that you do unto me."

Jesus was a socialist??!? I did not know that.

401 posted on 11/30/2002 12:55:12 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: PhiKapMom
Very true about AIDS! It is rampant in most of Africa and a very good reason for condoms.

But what to do? If we send them condoms we'll be committing demographic genocide on them---but if we just let them die, we'll still be committing demographic genocide on them!

402 posted on 11/30/2002 1:01:01 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: power2
My, the world is now in much better shape than it was in prior to the widespread acceptance of birth control (sarcasm off).

Wait a sec. Now I've heard that the reason for the crumbling of Western Civilization was prayer being taken out of schools. So which is right?

403 posted on 11/30/2002 1:13:03 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: stands2reason
" If we send them condoms we'll be committing demographic genocide on them---but if we just let them die, we'll still be committing demographic genocide on them!"

You raise a very good point and one that I am sure will be high on the agenda of the Kissinger Committee on 9/11 Terrorism and the WTC.</sarcasm>
404 posted on 11/30/2002 1:14:26 PM PST by APBaer
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To: APBaer
Kissinger and East Timor

p92 So gruesome were the subsequent reports of mass slaughter, rape, and deliberate use of starvation that such bluntness fell somewhat out of fashion. The killing of several Australian journalists who had witnessed Indonesia's atrocities, the devastation in the capital city of Dili, and the stubbornness of FRETILIN's hugely outgunned rural resistance made East Timor an embarrassment rather than an advertisement for Jakarta's new order. Kissinger generally attempted to avoid any discussion of his involvement in the extirpation of the Timorese - an ongoing involvement, since he authorized back-door shipments of weapons to those doing the extirpating - and was ably seconded in this by his ambassador to the United Nations, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who later confided in his memoir A Dangerous Place that, in relative terms, the death toll in East Timor during the initial days of the invasion was "almost the toll of casualties experienced by the Soviet Union during the Second World War." Moynihan continued: The United States wished things to turn out as they did, and worked to bring this about. The Department of State desired that the United Nations prove utterly ineffective in whatever measures it undertook. This task was given to me, and I carried it forward with no inconsiderable success.

p95 Henry Kissinger on a lecture tour for his book Diplomacy, August 11, 1995, Park Central Hotel in New York, questioned by investigative reporters Allan Nairn and Amy Goodman: Allan Nairn: Mr Kissinger, my name is Allan Nairn. I'm a journalist in the United States. I'm one of the Americans who survived the massacre in East Timor on November 12, 1991, a massacre during which Indonesian troops armed with American M-16s gunned down at least 271 Timorese civilians in front of the Santa Cruz Catholic cemetery as they were gathered in the act of peaceful mourning and protest. Now you just said that in your meeting with Suharto on the afternoon of December 6, 1975, you did not discuss Timor, you did not discuss it until you came to the airport. Well, I have here the official State Department transcript of your and President Ford's conversation with General Suharto, the dictator of Indonesia. It was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. It has been edited under the Freedom of Information Act so the whole text isn't there. It's clear from the portion of the text that is here, that in fact you did discuss the impending invasion of Timor with Suharto, a fact which was confirmed to me by President Ford himself in an interview I had with him. President Ford told me that in fact you discussed the impending invasion of Timor with Suharto and that you gave the US . . .
Kissinger: Who? I or he?

405 posted on 11/30/2002 1:51:46 PM PST by ganesha
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To: jla
For some of you in the Grand Ol' Party, it has become a matter of convenience to accept homosexuality & abortion as an inevitable step our civilization was bound to incur.

I certainly don't. But I'm realistic as to what methods will work to end abortion in this country. Screaming at the top of your lungs won't convince anyone of anything except that you're a raving lunatic. I've become pro-life despite the extreme rhetoric only though KNOWLEDGE i.e. learning the facts about abortion.

406 posted on 11/30/2002 1:52:02 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: APBaer
Just like in Startrek, I feel a disturbance in the Force.

Gasp!   The Force is Star Wars, not Star Trek!!!
407 posted on 11/30/2002 1:54:35 PM PST by gcruse
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To: ganesha
I am sure that the involvement of General Suharto in the events of 9/11 will be thoroughly investigated. </sarcasm>

I do not see the relevance, but at least it is a concept with which I am familiar.
408 posted on 11/30/2002 1:56:47 PM PST by APBaer
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To: gcruse
Sheeeet!!
No wonder I have trouble getting my Light Saber to work.
409 posted on 11/30/2002 1:57:54 PM PST by APBaer
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To: APBaer
The relevance is that the underlying problem is that Kissinger considers human life to be expendable. I don't like it when people on the far right become pro-abortion because it often has racist overtones. Pursuing a geopolitical agenda of promoting population control by oftentimes coercive measures is not the same thing as being pro-choice because you believe in personal freedom. The former position requires a great deal of arrogance and a belief that other human beings should be treated as pawns. This is the common theme in both liberal and conservative objections to Kissinger.
410 posted on 11/30/2002 2:13:13 PM PST by ganesha
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To: jla
I'm curious if either of you would've said
 that to the author of
the Conscience of the Nation?

And  I'm curious to know if you would
say the same things to the author of
Candide?

411 posted on 11/30/2002 2:15:18 PM PST by gcruse
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To: ganesha
"problem is that Kissinger considers human life to be expendable"

Well, I want the Committee headed by someone with an open mind, who if he determines it the best recommendation, might suggest that certain areas of sand be turned into green glass.

You, and Polycarp on the other hand, can be counted on to be singing Kumbaya!
412 posted on 11/30/2002 2:22:13 PM PST by APBaer
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To: Catholicguy
Why are those who oppose killing defensless
 unborn the ones supposed to "get a life?"


Look at it this way.  There was great umbrage taken on
these boards by one-issue Freepers when it became known
that there were homosexuals working in the Justice and
State departments in this administration.  Qualifications
never came into the discussion.  We want the best people
in the best jobs, regardless of irrelevant characteristics they
might otherwise have.  The same applies to Kissinger.
The same applied to Newt Gingrich, for that matter, who
should never have been hounded from office by the, guess
what, single issue conservatives.
413 posted on 11/30/2002 2:22:37 PM PST by gcruse
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To: montag813
"Sheesh, how stupid it this nonsense."

Sick around --- it can get a lot more stupid.

Where have you been?

414 posted on 11/30/2002 2:23:42 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: WarHawk42
"I haven't been called."

If it wasn't for God's inspiration on the Framers who put up the wall that stands in their way (our Constitution), I will guarantee you would be hearing that call of the religious kooks and zealots ---- one way or the other.

415 posted on 11/30/2002 2:38:52 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: APBaer
Respect for human life does not have to mean being a pacifist under all circumstances. It does require that a decision to use force be morally defensible. As a consequence of reading Laurie Mylroie's book, I consider Iraq to be responsible for a pattern of state sponsored terrorism which definitely includes the 1993 WTC bombing and possibly includes the 9-11 attacks. On those grounds I could justify removing Saddam Hussein from power. I do not support the use of nuclear weapons as long as there is a reasonable chance of winning by conventional means.
416 posted on 11/30/2002 2:45:44 PM PST by ganesha
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To: nopardons
"He's too pathetic to laugh at, but I can't help myself. LOL"

You'd better watch it! You'll soon be treated to an emotional outburst the likes of which people haven't experienced since the last time their little kid threw a tantrum and held his breath until he was blue in the face.

It's much more entertaining to behold when a supposed adult does it, though! LOL

417 posted on 11/30/2002 2:47:14 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Long Cut
BTTT
418 posted on 11/30/2002 2:48:28 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: jla
You have not the slighest idea about what you are saying when you refer to me -- I don't support abortion, I don't support a homosexual agenda, and I am a lifelong Republican.

I am just sick and tired of one issue people bringing their issue into something like the Kissinger appointment to the 9/11 commission when abortion has absolutely nothing to do with this commission.

When you mix apples and oranges you dilute the pro-life message and until some of you realize that, you will continue to be floundering. You pick your battles wisely and this definitely was not one of them. In the process you give the pro-life movement a bad name and that shouldn't be the case after so many people have worked so hard to get the message out!

Why are you all not out there demanding that partial birth abortion be banned? That would make 100% more sense than attacked Kissinger on his appointment to a 9/11 commission because of his stand on population control!
419 posted on 11/30/2002 5:02:49 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: APBaer
Do you get the feeling on here that some of the replies make absolutely no sense? I have had several to me that I want to just reply back with a question mark!
420 posted on 11/30/2002 5:06:19 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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