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Where did I lie? I never said I didn't know you from before. Your presence here merely strongly suggested to me that you were the same person. Yet these days, with the burgeoning Net, I don't assume anything about identities -- especially when you seemed to take a very long break from humanities.philosophy.objectivism. (Billy Beck and I helped clean your rhetorical clock, last go-rounds, as I recall.) So I confirmed things with Google Groups.

Actually, I recalled later where I'd seen you erupt this much, and was surprised you ever posted "Roar" around here. FReepers do tend to run to the homophobic and (where Muslims are concerned) Inquisition-fanatic, but strangely -- outside of Fresno -- they have the delicacy to rarely approve of street "direct action." Florida in 2000, I grant, was an exception.

~ "Janio at a Point": I discarded the printout of that piece that you sent to me in, oh, 1986 or so, long ago -- or at least it vanished in some move, unwept, unhonored, and unsung. I followed your more recent link to see if it was as stylistically bad, opaquely written, and full of ratiocination as I remembered. It was.

~ Your Website: I recall having clicked on something you posted weeks ago around here and getting nothing but "You're surprised to get this page ...", that apparently being your 404, at least for Netscape users.

~ Your going to Mass: Still as full of contradictions as it was a few years back. What is that teaching your son about you, and about what you stand for?

~ Your posting to HPO: Do you have the mistaken impression that you'd been taken, around there, as anything other than a gaudy debating pet? Catching Swann in another set of glittering generalities -- a favorite pastime, and for more than a few people.

Hit the button, Greg. Go ahead. Make your contempt obvious.

I just remembered: Google Groups sorts first by relevance, not by date, so I overlooked that I might have added you to my News Xpress killfile filter. Maybe you did post more recently to the HPO newsgroup, after all, in other words. (That is, in the past couple years, since I became infrequent over there.)

And, indeed, upon checking a few minutes ago, I had killfiled you. I knew I had good taste.

No one should ever lie to me, Steve. Telling lies is self-destructive in se, but I've spent half my life studying liars and their lies. I don't let things slide.

I hope that you can learn to do a better job of loving your self.

Greg Swann