Honey, let me explain something...
Income taxes are paid on earnings, not on what you spend. Sales taxes and the like are paid on what you spend.
Sales taxes are pretty much impossible to avoid. Because of withholding, income taxes are damn near impossible to avoid these days -- you may not file a return, but you pay anyway; you probably pay more than if you did file.
I'll take it a step further. Mexican immigrants do jobs that need to get done by someone. They are generally very decent people. They are also potential Republicans. They have family values that would put most of us to shame. All we really need to do is to teach them to speak English and to be fair with them. They pay us back in spades.
Sure they do ---that's why the county hospitals in the SW are on the verge of bankrupcy and the public schools need tons of federal grant money to rescue them. People earning cash do not file an IRS statement and attempt to pay Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes or file their taxes with the IRS like the rest of us must.
If this is so true ---then why does Mexico look the way it does? They don't even deny they have huge amounts of corruption ---or is that somehow a Republican trait? Conservative, honest, responsible, educated, taxpaying, good voters, hard-working type people tend to have countries that reflect these values.
You forgot: /sarcasm
Before you go trotting on down the wrong road here, let's make it clear that what we're talking about is ILLEGAL ALIENS, "honey".
The pigs leaving all that garbage on the indian reservation are NOT immigrants. They're ILLEGAL ALIENS!
"Mexican immigrants do jobs that need to get done by someone."
ILLEGAL ALIENS steal jobs that were being done by someone already, because they're willing to work for HALF and with no benefits. They can leech those from the U.S. Taxpayers.
"They are generally decent people."
ILLEGAL ALIENS may be as decent as most bank robbers, but they're all still criminals.
"They are also potential Republicans."
ILLEGAL ALIENS are potential RINOs, NOT conservative Republicans.
"They have family values that would put most of us to shame."
Give us a link.
What family values are you talking about?
Maybe you're talking about the practice of most adult males in Mexico of visiting legal houses of prostitution, or keeping a woman on the side?
ILLEGAL ALIENS use welfare, foodstamps, SSI and rip off U.S. hospital emergency rooms to a greater degree than native born Americans do.
According to the Center for Immigration Studies the average ILLEGAL ALIEN will use $55,000 more in his lifetime than he pays back into the system.
Your arguments are old and tired.
Show us your sources for the ridiculous, liberal claims you make.
Give us a link.
Souds like Stockholm syndrome. BTW, where are all the environmentalists on the immigration issue?
Lets see, you moved from the liberal mecca of Santa Monica to Virginia? Lord, I can only hope you took your friends with you.
Maybe you can convince the Virginians how good it is for America to have millions of illegal aliens crashing our borders and defecating on our laws and sovereignty. Potential future Republicans INDEED!
THANK YOU FOR LEAVING CALIFORNIA, NOW IF WE CAN ONLY GET RID OF A COUPLE MILLION MORE, ANTI BORDER, PRO-IMMIGRATION LUNATICS AND REPUBLICAN NEOCON LIBERALS.
California's gain, Virginia's loss! Spread the word, Virginia has millions of jobs for the uneducated, unskilled and non English speaking, and they welcome illegal aliens with open arms! Get the word out!
You do realize nobody believes it right?
First let me say, a person comes into a country illegally, manages to get everything given to him and then you think they can't avoid taxes - wow? Are you familiar with 'getting paid under the table'? Are you familiar with 'contract labor'? Most of these people are either working for cash or contract labor. Contract labor means you flash them a SS #. They write you a check at the end of th week for all of your money - NOTHING IS WITHHELD - and they supposedly file a 1099 witht he IRS at the end of the year and send on to the employee. They do not have to obey many of our laws - you know they don't carry auto insurance, or have their cars inspected - heck, they don't even bag their trash in a lot of places.Now consider - do you really think these folks, who are here illegally, are getting everything given to them by the taxpayers and protected by our government, are going to pay the required income taxes and the self-employment SS tax? Now that is just a gnat too big for any thinking person to swallow.
Yes, they pay sales tax on what they purchase. They buy much of their clothing at garage sales, and many churches and charitable organizations give them clothing They simply do not spend as much as most people.
Now one other gnat to swallow - how in the world can these people obey all the laws, add so much to economy, pay all the taxes we citizens pay - and still have enough money to send home to Mexico, constituting 1/3 of the national economy for them. Just does not compute.
No, you might get some people to believe that - but those of us who live with them know the truth - and for those who don't know - I hope they will pay attention to the ones who do live it everyday of our lives.
[They are generally very decent people.]
A really broad statement there. Some are good people - many are not. I have dealt with more thieves in the illegal community than I can count - mostly the women and children. But they are all illegal!!!
[ They are also potential Republicans.]
Only if the Republican party continues to up the ante of freebies to keep the votes. They will vote the benefits and pandering - so where does that leave the Republicans - you know the ones who pay the taxes and are paying for those benefits and pandering?
[ They have family values that would put most of us to shame.]
Sorry, another broad statement that simply is not true. Some are good folks, some are not. I have not found their family values to be any better, in fact, if teaching your children to get all the freebies and to steal all you can is family values - then I will agree. NOw I have met some who are good and honest - but not all and not the majority.
[ All we really need to do is to teach them to speak English and to be fair with them.]
Now why should we have to teach them to speak English and how much fairer should we be. We are losing our schools, and the elderly are losing their homes to pay the taxes, President Bush is going to make down payments on their homes (our money, they a re getting housing, medical care, education, food - now how fair should we be? Now, yes, I will agree - we should be fair. We should say to them - you have broken the law - you must leave. That's fair. If they do stay, we should say, if you work - you pay taxes. If you eat, you buy it. If you have medical care - you pay for it. If you want you kids educated - you put something in the pot. If you want to live here -obey all our laws and act like Americans - now how fair is that?
[They pay us back in spades.]
Yep, we get paid back in higher taxes, high crime rates, higher medical costs, lower property values, our education system is being destroyed. That is paying us back - all right.
Now I am going to assume you simply do not know the truth and are just being kind - any other reason for those things in a post would just be to sad to contemplate.
You're kidding, right? Tell that to the employees at the jails and prisons in areas where there are high concentrations of illegal aliens. They've gotten so bold down here that they deal their drugs in broad daylight and don't care who sees them!
Tell that to people who have had to flee once-decent neighborhoods because they got tired of being sleep-deprived from the loud accordian-polka music blasting from cars in the middle of the night as illegals stood around it and drank beer and leaving their trash all over the place.
I could go on, but I won't.