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Where did Daschle, Gore and Hillary get the idea to attack Rush, Fox, etc.?
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Posted on 11/27/2002 10:10:33 AM PST by Hugin

I was reading last weeks Newsweek and came upon Jonathan Alter's article, "Down in the Dumps; MEMO TO: The Democratic Party. Mixed in with the other advice was the following paragraphs...

"Close the discipline gap. Republicans have long been better at developing a party line (for example "Tom Daschle is an obstructionist"), repeating it endlessly and using their allies in the conservative press and talk radio to drive the message home. You Democrats don't even send out emails to keep your folks on the same page.

To close the gap you need some Charlie Michaelsons. He was the long-forgotten publicist for the Democratic National Committe during the Hoover administration, who popularized "Hoovervilles" and otherwise drove home the point that the president was responsible for the bad economy. (And you thought spin was a new invention). But while the GOP has it's Michaelson types hard at work, yours are mostly sitting on the sidelines."

WIthin a few of days of this being printed we see Daschle, Gore, and Hillary all repeating this latest version of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Theory. Of course Mr. Alter seems to have missed the last eight years where the Democrats marched in lockstep repeating the talking points of the Clinton spin machine. But in a unique twist it seems that the RAT politicians are now taking their talking points from the liberal media. However instead of really following Mr. Alter's suggestions and putting forth their own ideas in some kind of coherent fashion they have chosen to simply whine about the unfairness of the "conservative media". IMHO they have decided that since conservatives have been successful in pointing out that most news media is leftist, they will create the impression that there is now a conservaive bias in the media. Unfortunately for them, liberal bias is alive and well, and was nearly universal until recently. Further the American people know it. So their attempt at spinning themselves as victims of media bias won't work with anyone except the most rabid leftists in their base.


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1 posted on 11/27/2002 10:10:33 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin
Desperation.
2 posted on 11/27/2002 10:12:30 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Hugin
Elian was not an illegal alien

Exactly - to all but the most uninformed, their blather is completely inane - you have Carvile ranting about the Republicans practising the politics of personal destruction, and you have Gore complaining about billionaires directing their media companies - a pot/kettle/black situation if there ever was one.

3 posted on 11/27/2002 10:13:45 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Hugin
You're giving Alter way too much credit. Daschle looked stupid in his rant...Gore looks even more stupid in his rant. I hope they keep it up. The more they rant, the more stupid they look - and the sheeple are starting to catch on.
4 posted on 11/27/2002 10:14:18 AM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: Hugin
You know they are talking and planning these attacks, and of course they have a willing media to assist them! It's so obvious.
5 posted on 11/27/2002 10:14:33 AM PST by Registered
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To: Hugin
There is a strategy behind all of this. Obviously, WE (FR, dittoheads, conservatives, etc...) are NOT the target audience.

This is a carefully planned strategy to go after all the cracker voters...those who are ignorant of the way things really are.

The hope apparently is that the new Dem message (attack the conservative voice) will stick with those ignorant of the differences in philosophies.

It's a persuasive strategy of innoculation...

6 posted on 11/27/2002 10:17:45 AM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: Hugin
Where did Daschle, Gore and Hillary get the idea to attack Rush, Fox, etc.?

From the lockbox.

7 posted on 11/27/2002 10:18:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Hugin
Before "Hooverism" came Andrew Jackson.......

"You have no longer any cause to fear danger from abroad . . . It is from within, among yourselves--from cupidity, from corruption, from disappointed ambition and inordinate thirst for power--that factions will be formed and liberty endangered. It is against such designs, whatever disguise the actors may assume, that you have especially to guard yourselves.

You have the highest of human trusts committed to your care. Providence has showered on this favored land blessings without number, and has chosen you as the guardians of freedom, to preserve it for the benefit of the human race. May He who holds in His hands the destinies of nations make you worthy of the favors He has bestowed and enable you, with pure hearts and pure hands and sleepless vigilance, to guard and defend to the end of time the great charge He has committed to your keeping."

--Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, March 4, 1837

8 posted on 11/27/2002 10:18:09 AM PST by prognostigaator
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Political Cartoon of Rush

9 posted on 11/27/2002 10:18:36 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: Hugin
"Close the discipline gap. Republicans have long been better at developing a party line (for example "Tom Daschle is an obstructionist"), repeating it endlessly and using their allies in the conservative press and talk radio to drive the message home. You Democrats don't even send out emails to keep your folks on the same page.

Hello Pot? Yeah, this is the kettle, and you're black!

What a truckload of Horse Crap!!! The dim's are definitely the most talented at towing the party line. The republican's, being the 'big tent' party has always had more dissention among it's ranks, and always had a tougher time getting everyone on the same page. The kool-aid kid dim's are getting more and more delusional by the day!! The dim's main problem is Bill and Hillary Clinton running the show. They seriously underestimate how poorly the Clinton's are regarded in flyover country. Don't tell them that though! If Slick, Hildebeast, and McAwful remain at the helm, we'll get to see a spectacular show come 2004!

10 posted on 11/27/2002 10:21:04 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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Well... they are desperate.

And the bottom of the barrel is still there.

After all their lame "How long will a war cost?" and "How long will it last" asinine contribution to the debate went down in flames...

11 posted on 11/27/2002 10:21:23 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Hugin
I guess Hillary hasn't been able to keep the media machine as well oiled as she did when her husband was in the Whitehouse, or maybe James Carville isn't so willing to work for her as he was her husband. I know that he was responsible for sending out daily talking points to an army of internet posters while Clinton was president. But, we all know that Clinton attacked the right wing media, following the OKC bombing. It's not a new idea. My guess is that Hillary is behind it.
12 posted on 11/27/2002 10:23:03 AM PST by Eva
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To: Hugin
Attacking Rush and Mean-Spirited-Talk-Radio™ seemed to work well in 1995. Of course, the timing would have been better next summer.
13 posted on 11/27/2002 10:23:33 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Hugin
I read that article too. Boy, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black (media repeating "talking points") I don't know what is.

Sounds like a bad case of projection to me. They do it then accuse us of doing it. The difference is that the liberals really do have a "theme for the day (or week)" that they try to push while conservatives merely pick up on what is really happening (Daschle is an obstructionist etc.)

14 posted on 11/27/2002 10:25:35 AM PST by MickMan51
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. . . a pot/kettle/black situation if there ever was one.

I swear, I posted the same thing before I even read your post ! !

15 posted on 11/27/2002 10:26:49 AM PST by MickMan51
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Hello Pot? Yeah, this is the kettle, and you're black!

Great minds think alike ! !

16 posted on 11/27/2002 10:28:15 AM PST by MickMan51
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To: MickMan51
It didn't help that I posted in a snippet from the wrong article. Cutting and pasting while on Sudafed can be a dangerous thing... :^)
17 posted on 11/27/2002 10:28:38 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Hugin
Anything from Alter Newsweak should be disregarded right away.
18 posted on 11/27/2002 10:29:47 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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All of the RATS will take turns driving the WAAAAMBLUNACE.

19 posted on 11/27/2002 10:30:31 AM PST by finnman69
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To: Hugin
Oh for crying out loud! If I had a penny for everytime we heard "It's just about sex" I would be a millionaire. Don't tell me democrats don't have talking points. jeeesh!
20 posted on 11/27/2002 10:31:18 AM PST by hobson
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