Posted on 11/25/2002 8:15:37 AM PST by SAMWolf
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What revelence does that have to anything I said? To put it bluntly, you are a combination of stupid, irrational, or uneducated. Weight the variables yourself.
Manufactuing offers the ability for those without skills and education to earn a reasonable salary. All that is required is good hard work. The work done in the manufacturing sector adds more to the value of the product than say, flipping a burger.
When we lose our manufacturing base, we cut the first rung off of the upward mobility ladder.
Hey, I can call names with you if you like. Look what you wrote and guess who the idiot is.
Go make up some more definitions goofy.
The problem is that most here keep blaming free trade when they should be blaming the real cause of the above problem. Bad government policies which make it unprofitable or less profitable to do business at home. Blame the coersion of government and their bastard child, labor unions.
The very liberty you seek to undermine with government control of private arragements. The founders would puke if they saw you equate what we have today with the freedom they envisioned.
You of course ignored the question about geography and God.
Sure, to a 10 year old, it would make sense that it's better to keep your job. After a college education, one realizes the benefit of supply and demand.
Well, you can thank your government for taking the ability of unskilled workers to earn a living, by having a minimum wage.
However, having less unskilled labor jobs will motivate those unskilled workers to become skilled and get educated, thus raising our standards.
Those are your words... not mine.
I never said they were. They are mine, I make them to point out that a prevailing opinion on this site is just that.
I only suggest that our business practices are not universally applied and accepted throughout the world. Free trade as advocated by Adam Smith is not on the agenda overseas.
I don't disagree, but what is the point?
I also point out the corporate America's abuse of the H1B system is causing native born citizens to be squeezed out of the job market.
You keep saying that but there is no evidence to support it. What there is evidence for is that the "native born" will not agree to the same terms of employment as theri competition. And being "native born" shouldn't be an issue.
For some reason, these comments are treated often with great hostility.
Not by me, which is not to say I agree.
...So, for all of you who so rabidly and blindly advocate total free trade post answers back to these questions:
1 - When nothing is made here any more, where will you work?
2 - When the majority of the country is unable to earn a living wage, who will you serve?
3 - What do you think constitutes a reasonable balance??
I don't know what the right answer is, but I do know that if we do not stand together, we will fall apart together...
Free markets simply put:
Necessity (need or want) is the mother of invention.
- If American workers are out of jobs, it is because those workers have fallen into the trap of thinking they can "coast". As in a previous example: If suddenly buggies are no longer needed, you MUST accept that life means change, and you then retrain yourself - new skills, or a new service. A large number (a majority???) of Americans have adopted the idea that life should be "safe", and thus will gravitate towards those who promise them a continuous saftey "net" to save them from life's little annoyances. In the end , like a spoiled child, having been given everything it wants, they are shocked and dismayed to find that the only one that gives a damn is the politician who says 'Follow me to the promised land of free milk and honey - I feel your pain and I will keep you safe'. Which really means keeping you from hurting yourself - doomed to never learning from your mistakes.
Supply & demand
- GREEDY corporations - or anyone for that matter - don't get rich unless they provide a good or service that someone else is willing to purchase. That is why Free Market Capitalism is the most moral of all economic systems - if the seller disrespects the buyer, the buyer will go somewhere else.
(Frustratingly)
I don't know how the early pioneers ever made it across the Great Plains without the Guvmint making sure they were treated fairly each step of the way...
Regards,
The minimum wage is the benchmark from which union scale is marked up in many cases, which is the reason for their support of it.
Not MY question, you answered some other question.
I'll state it again. As a Christian, do you think God approves of treating people differently because of geographical location? Do you think he values "native born" people more than others?
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