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Comments on Condi Rice, please.
Posted on 11/24/2002 4:22:58 AM PST by soccergirl
I am reading a book on Condolezza Rice, called CONDI. It states that she is (in her words) "pure Second Amendment", for small government, very conservative, to the point of libertarian at times, and pro-choice. It says she is a "realist" on foreign policy, favoring a very strong military. She refers to herself as "a very religious person;" (not sure how she squares that with her position on the life issue.) On a personal level, she is an outstanding pianist, figure skater, and desires (implied) to be Commissioner of the NFL someday.
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Does anyone else have facts on her ideological leanings and prospects for the future?
To: soccergirl
Sounds like my kind of gal.
To: soccergirl
I don't have any more facts, other than all of that is consistent with other things I have read and heard her say.
On 2A, I've seen an interview where she speaks of growing up in AL, and remembering her father and other men in her community protecting it and keeping out racist yahoos intent on mayhem, with firearms in hand. If I'd seen that, I'd be pretty strong on 2A, too. Heck, I am, and didn't see *anything* like that growing up.
To: FreedomPoster
From the book CONDI..."With the bombings that summer came marauding groups of armed white vigilantes called "nightriders" who drove through black neighborhoods shooting and setting fires. Condi's father and other neighborhood men guarded their streets at night to keep the nightriders away from their homes. Armed with shotguns, they formed night-long patrols. The memory of her father out on patrol forms Condi's opposition to gun control today. Had those guns been registered, she argues, Bull Connor (local political boss and Birmingham Commissioner) would have had the legal right to take them away, thereby removing one of the black community's only means of defense. "I have a sort of pure Second Amendment view of the right to bear arms," Condi said in 2001.
To: soccergirl
I don't understand the pro-"choice" position either, but I see Republicans who are pro-choice as being that way for political means really. Basically, I'd hope she never had an abortion or encouraged it, but if she is for limits on it(late term, life of the mother) what are her stands on it because this is the one issue where it could cause her problems with wanting a nomination unfortunately. Abortion is always the difficult issue because there are others who wouldn't vote for someone for making it illegal too. I think the most this country is ever going to get is limits on it.
To: soccergirl
(not sure how she squares that with her position on the life issue.) That is a easy question to answer. Most women when pressed will admit that they would not get a abortion, but they respect the right of others to choose that option if necessary.
This is the predominant feeling I have gotten when speaking about this issue to most women. (including my daughter)
I wish we could get away from doing too much labeling in this regard. Condi is a rare and potentially important leader in her own right.
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posted on
11/24/2002 4:51:58 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
To: soccergirl
Rice is an outstanding pianist.
She should be sacked as the national security advisor for "sleeping at the switch" by allowing 9/11 to happen.
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posted on
11/24/2002 4:54:13 AM PST
by
Tuco-bad
To: soccergirl
This is the most information I have seen on Condi,but
I believe she has done a good job.
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posted on
11/24/2002 5:05:26 AM PST
by
Big Horn
To: Tuco-bad
She should be sacked as the national security advisor for "sleeping at the switch" by allowing 9/11 to happen.Another gem of a reply. How can you stand to be so witty?
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11/24/2002 5:09:52 AM PST
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johnny7
To: Tuco-bad
Your comment is prima facie , without a doubt, one of the most inane short blurbs I have read on this board in 3 years.
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11/24/2002 5:12:57 AM PST
by
oioiman
To: soccergirl
Our next president.
To: Tuco-bad; Howlin; WaveThatFlag
She should be sacked as the national security advisor for "sleeping at the switch" by allowing 9/11 to happen. Why not start a thread under "Breaking News" with your startling revelation.
To: The Other Harry
I think, or hope, she will run, but in 8 years. And I would vote for her most likely.
To: wirestripper; Tuco-bad; GraniteStateConservative
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Firstly, before I comment, please ignore Tuco-bad's post above. He is a troll and is here to disrupt any intelligent conversation about Condi Rice, so please just ignore his posts.
Second, near as I can tell, she's pro-choice probably as a result of her libertarian, Randist streak. I strongly suspect that she also believes in a ban on late-term abortion. That's where about 80% of the country is. I know that she is in favor of restrictions on abortion such as parental notification. I also know that she is very conflicted about this because she calls herself "reluctantly" pro-choice. That means that her spiritual side is reminding her that she needs to think anew on this issue.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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11/24/2002 5:17:08 AM PST
by
section9
To: Tuco-bad
She should be sacked as the national security advisor for "sleeping at the switch" by allowing 9/11 to happen. Don't even begin to make such comments, 'Rat boy, you are not qualified. I don't recall you ever calling for Clinton's head on a platter for allowing Osama to get away with the 1993 WTC bombing, the attacks on the embassies in East Africa or the USS Cole.
Ivan
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11/24/2002 5:17:38 AM PST
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MadIvan
To: section9
Firstly, before I comment, please ignore Tuco-bad's post above. He is a troll and is here to disrupt any intelligent conversation about Condi Rice, so please just ignore his posts He's good for a smackdown or two. Such stupidity should not go unpunished. It should be smashed across the face, taking out a few teeth in the process.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
11/24/2002 5:18:38 AM PST
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MadIvan
To: wirestripper
In reality, most women who are pro-choice have simply not thought about the issue. How can you gush and be excited about a baby in one womb and yet support the killing of one in another womb? How can one child have so much worth and another have no worth at all? One child is a gift from God and the other is a parasite. It defies logic.
Pro-choice women don't argue abortion because they don't understand their own opinion. It's pure emotional ignorance.
To: section9
Pro-life is the true libertarian standard. Abortion inflicts harm on another human being.
To: soccergirl
To: AppyPappy
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Actually, I agree with you. I just don't believe Condi has taken the time to sit down and give this any thought.
I'm not sure that she is as pro-choice as she indicates, given the fact that her statements indicate that she has doubts about the "right to choose".
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
11/24/2002 5:28:41 AM PST
by
section9
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