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To: Hank Kerchief
do you really believe these "loyal American Muslims," will stand against their religion and their religious leaders?"

If you had a little historical knowledge, you would scoff at the irony of your post. You pose the exact same questions the 19th century Know-Nothing Party asked about Catholics, namely would they owe primary allegiance to the Pope or to America. The same question has been asked about American Jews and our supposed loyalties to Israel, and Japanese Americans to Japan.

There will always be a few exceptions, but in every case, the overwhelming majority of folks who have come to the United States do so because they want to become Americans. Will a few Muslim Americans back the Mullahs against us? Yes. Do a few American Jews spy for Israel? Sure. But the overwhelming majority of all these groups are loyal Americans, and are at least as loyal to the nation as you are.

6 posted on 11/21/2002 7:19:17 AM PST by andy_card
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To: andy_card
...If you had a little historical knowledge...

I presume you do have some historic knowledge, and know exactly what the Muslims have done and are doing now in England and Europe. To compare the history of Catholics and Jews to Muslims is a great insult to both Catholics and Jews.

The core beliefs of both Catholics and Jews are consistent with individual liberty and Western culture. The core beliefs of Islam are in direct contradiction of both individual liberty and all culture.

Hank

9 posted on 11/21/2002 7:29:37 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: andy_card
do you really believe these "loyal American Muslims," will stand against their religion and their religious leaders?"

If you had a little historical knowledge, you would scoff at the irony of your post. You pose the exact same questions the 19th century Know-Nothing Party asked about Catholics, namely would they owe primary allegiance to the Pope or to America. The same question has been asked about American Jews and our supposed loyalties to Israel, and Japanese Americans to Japan.

There will always be a few exceptions, but in every case, the overwhelming majority of folks who have come to the United States do so because they want to become Americans. Will a few Muslim Americans back the Mullahs against us? Yes. Do a few American Jews spy for Israel? Sure. But the overwhelming majority of all these groups are loyal Americans, and are at least as loyal to the nation as you are.

What some of the anti-Muslims forget is that many and probably most American Muslims move here to get away from "Sharia" government. They are our allies in the fight against the fanatics, not our enemies. President Bush knows them as people, not as a shadowy "them", the same is the case with Colin Powell. Even Netanyahu, once he sat down with them and talked, ended up having reasonably good relations with the Palestinians and excellent relations with the Jordanians.

A big part of the American ideal is judging people as individuals, not as members of groups. If we succumb to group-think, we are no better than Democrats, who thrive on such. As Andy points out, Catholics and Jews both faced this sort of prejudice in the early days of our nation. There's no reason to repeat it.

-Eric

12 posted on 11/21/2002 7:55:03 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: andy_card
Both Jewish-Americans and Japanese-Americans (I hate the hyphen crap, but it's relevant to your post) have proved themselves by fighting for America and our Constitution, therefore none of us can play the "blame the ethnic group" game with respect to them.

Where are the hordes of Muslim-Americans joining up to fight for us against their co-religionists?

Did American Lutherans refuse to fight the Nazi scum? No.

Let Muslim-Americans stand up and be counted or their reputation will suffer accordingly and deservedly so.

83 posted on 12/07/2002 7:00:47 AM PST by metesky
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To: andy_card
Islam has been responsible for most of the world's strife for centuries.
100 posted on 12/10/2002 12:05:41 PM PST by wjcsux
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To: andy_card
Neither the Jews or Christians have in their belief system instructions from God to install a Sharia type of law.

The muslims are under this obligation and there are countries around the world that have done this.

Your US Constitution that protects minorities, won't save you from the sword of Islam if they get the upper hand as they have done in other countries. - tom

128 posted on 12/11/2002 11:04:34 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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