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How to Stow My Gun
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Posted on 11/20/2002 9:13:06 PM PST by Capriole

I am a divorced mom. I have a stalker, a man who can't take no for an answer. He's been rather worrisome, and his mental health is deteriorating. The police say that his threats have not yet been specific enough for them to arrest him and keep him locked up. The problem is made somewhat worse by the fact that he lives in another state, 40 minutes away, and it's difficult to prosecute across state lines, especially since he hasn't actually hurt me (yet).

What makes the situation a little more tolerable is that I have (among other things) a lovely 9 mm Browning Hi-Power. Now I'm trying to figure out how can I carry this in my bag and still keep it away from my gun-obsessed eight-year-old son, who is a lunatic, like most eight-year-old boys. How do other parents handle this? Any recommendations, Freepers? It's easy enough to keep the long guns away from him, and he can't do anything with them anyway, but if the Browning is going to protect me at all I have to have instant access. I've never been in the habit of dragging a handgun around with me all the time, but since this sicko is threatening to find me when I'm alone and "make me pay," I'm about to start doing so.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; handgun; kids; safety
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1 posted on 11/20/2002 9:13:06 PM PST by Capriole
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To: Capriole
Can you move? I would.
2 posted on 11/20/2002 9:19:20 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Capriole
Check out the horizontal shoulder holster by Uncle Mike's. It's very woman-friendly in any weather cool enough to wear a jacket. If you're a typical-size U.S. woman (size 14 or larger), it's easy to carry a Browning HP unnoticeably under a jacket - especially any outdoors jacket. It's made of nylon over waterproof foam.

TIP: this holster rig comes in various sizes for various guns - so be sure to buy the right one.

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3 posted on 11/20/2002 9:19:33 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Capriole
I'll trade you a Detective Special for the High Power

Seriously, take the kid out somewhere, you shoot a melon or something, let the kid shoot something, let him see how much damage it will do, and tell him you will kick his ass to the moon if he touches it without your OK.

My Dad & Grandpa took this approach with me & my cousins, and we were so scared of what they would do to us (and what else might happen)we never touched a gun without their OK.

4 posted on 11/20/2002 9:22:17 PM PST by Ford Fairlane
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To: Capriole
Get a 'hide-a-gun' purse, and keep that purse beside you at all times.
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5 posted on 11/20/2002 9:22:57 PM PST by 45semi
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To: Ford Fairlane
Very good advice. Kids think guns work like they do on TV.
6 posted on 11/20/2002 9:25:49 PM PST by motzman
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To: Capriole
Eddy Eagle the kid.
7 posted on 11/20/2002 9:27:07 PM PST by ASA Vet
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To: goodnesswins
Can you move? I would.

Yes, I suppose I could move. I could give up my beautiful and beloved house, on which I've lavished so much time, energy, and money. I'd been thinking about moving to a decrepit mid-nineteenth-century farmhouse so that I could have the horses on the back acreage and could restore the farmhouse.

But I'm not going to be chased from my house and I'm certainly not going to be scared away from going to the church I've loved for ten years. That would be really Satanic, if this screwball scared me away from my church! Nope, sorry, I've got the Lord and I've got the Browning, (and the .22 and the 410 and the 30.'06) so I'm staying right where I am until I bloody well feel like moving.

8 posted on 11/20/2002 9:30:03 PM PST by Capriole
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To: motzman
What really scared the crap out of us was seeing what Grandpa's '86 Winchester .50-110 did to a sparrow (and our shoulders)

I sure wish I knew what happened to that gun.

9 posted on 11/20/2002 9:30:17 PM PST by Ford Fairlane
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To: Capriole
To borrow a saying: "You can't child proof your gun, but you can gun-proof your child."

Take your kid to the range. Let him see what a gun can do. Check out the NRA web site for the eddie eagle program. Education works. Hiding doesn't.

10 posted on 11/20/2002 9:30:24 PM PST by flashbunny
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To: ASA Vet
Eddy Eagle the kid.

That would work too. My brother used to teach for Head Start, he showed the Eddie Eagle video to the kids & almost got fired for it, but the parents were glad he did it, considering the climate most of those kids grow up in.

11 posted on 11/20/2002 9:32:52 PM PST by Ford Fairlane
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To: Capriole
Fanny pack or concealed carry vest. Go to a gun shop or gun show and look at the differrent kinds specifically for carrying. If you get one, practice getting the gun out and ready (safely, of course). A sholder holster is good but a fanny pack or vest is usable year round.

Like Ford Fairlane said, get the nine-year-old familiar with handguns and what they can do.
12 posted on 11/20/2002 9:32:57 PM PST by CPOSharky
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To: Capriole
Get a 'hide-a-gun' purse, and keep that purse beside you at all times.

I agree with 45semi, the hide a gun purse is an excellent option. Your gun can be aimed and ready to fire and the target won't even know you're armed.

13 posted on 11/20/2002 9:34:07 PM PST by Mike K
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To: flashbunny
Education works. Hiding doesn't.

You're right, of course. I'm 35 minutes from NRA HQ, I oughta be able to work something out. Thanks.

14 posted on 11/20/2002 9:34:53 PM PST by Capriole
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To: 45semi
"Get a 'hide-a-gun' purse, and keep that purse beside you at all times."

Anyone trying that should first make sure that the gun fits easily - and, most importantly, draws easily.

Many of those purses are sized for only certain-size guns or smaller. A gun purse just fine for a Sig P232 or Walther PPK won't accept even some "compact" 9mms like the the Sig P239.

15 posted on 11/20/2002 9:34:56 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Capriole
Some recommendations I'd offer:

Get NRA classes for yourself and your kid, especially him. Find a local range that offers self-defense classes and take one. They will be able to inform you on local concealed-carry laws and on rules of engagement - these differ from state to state. Many also offer pepper-spray classes - consider this if you're interested in a self-defense device you can take places that you can't take a gun. Practice with that firearm at least once a week. Keep the firearm on your person at all times and when at home if you want it locked up I'd recommend one of THESE - I use one and recommend it highly, it is fast and you can keep a loaded firearm in it in confidence that your son can't get at it.

Get a good deadbolt lock for the front door and a peephole if you haven't one already. Get locks for all ground-floor windows at a minimum and use them. Get a cellphone and keep it on you at all times - program 911 on the speed dial.

Investigate a restraining order. There are a number of women's legal-help organizations to aid you; many are not gun-friendly so they don't have to know that part, but they can help you through the legal process at no or very little cost.

For concealment I have had several purses recommended by women I know who carry - Dillon makes a good one. Keep the gun on your person or in that safe at all times if you have a curious son, but if you do nothing else get him the class. For ammunition in that particular caliber, 9mm, I use Federal Hydra-Shok 124-gr jacketed hollow points. Make sure your pistol cycles those properly - they're a bit expensive to practice with on a regular basis but make sure it chambers them at least once, then practice with 115-gr full metal jacketed cartridges - they're cheaper and for self-defense purposes are ballistically identical to the self-defense ammo.

FReemail me with any questions. You don't have to live in fear.

16 posted on 11/20/2002 9:37:06 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Ford Fairlane
Living in NJ, I don't own a firearm because it's a pain the a$$ to get a permit, but back in the early 80's when I was in High School, my two best friends were active enthusiasts and target shooters (not hunters). I remember going with them to the range and being stunned by how loud and powerful firearms were. It taught me to respect and exercise care around firearms.

I remember that I had a girlfriend that was very anti-gun and deathly afraid of even being near a gun. After some convincing, she went with us to the range one Saturday, and was really scared...for a while.

To make a long story short, on the ride home I remember her saying "When can we go shoot again?"
17 posted on 11/20/2002 9:37:41 PM PST by motzman
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To: Capriole
Actually my response about moving was a little flippant.....I probably would want to see that this idiot falls on "hard" times.....got any BIG men who are friends? (And, yes, I'd keep that gun close by....and I like the ideas posted here about training your son.)
18 posted on 11/20/2002 9:38:11 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Capriole
Kill him.

People die every day of apparently accidental circumstances.

Rent "The Mechanic" with Charles Bronson to get the general idea.

19 posted on 11/20/2002 9:41:13 PM PST by montag813
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To: motzman
I had a similar experience with an ex fiance - even though i got her to like shooting, I never could get rid of the rest of her liberal views

If anyone gets a gun in their hand & punches some holes in a target, it changes their view of things

20 posted on 11/20/2002 9:43:51 PM PST by Ford Fairlane
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