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Posted on 11/20/2002 5:36:31 PM PST by repub32

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To: TigersEye
I>These poor animals. Look how they're suffering.

LOL!!!

Anyone who has ever been around animals, owned pets, etc. knows how opportinustic they are. We ought to tell those Caribou and bears that the libs want to do away with their nice warm oil pipelines.

41 posted on 11/20/2002 10:19:13 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: TigersEye
How do they get the styrofoam critters to look like they are moving? Cagey bastards those oilmen.

The pictures are great and really tell the story. Where did you first see them, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, or the NYT/ Washinton Post, or was it in the LA Times?

42 posted on 11/20/2002 11:06:45 PM PST by bybybill
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To: repub32
they are still pumping oil out of downtown LA....

I dont thinks ANWR is a Nat'l Park, but I think Bush will get the 60 votes if he raises the fuel standard for trucks next year and invest in wind power, etc. the state of Texas is getting big into wind power these days.....those HUGE eggbeater windmills will spin to a profit....perfect for farmland and old oil land.
43 posted on 11/20/2002 11:55:25 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: scratch-a-lot
I hoep they find a ton of oil up there.

Just a ton? :)

45 posted on 11/21/2002 4:51:29 AM PST by Recon by Fire
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To: cmsgop
Agreed. No impact on the environment. In fact, less impact than the environMENTALists cause on their world by their cars they drive.
46 posted on 11/21/2002 5:34:39 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: bybybill
How do they get the styrofoam critters to look like they are moving? Cagey bastards those oilmen.

These aren't your $30 archery targets, buddy. This is the OIL BUSINESS, man, they paid $2,$3, $4,000 a crack for these lifelike repro's. ; )

The pictures are great and really tell the story. Where did you first see them, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, or the NYT/ Washinton Post, or was it in the LA Times?

I am really glad you asked that. NO, I didn't see them in any of the sources you suggest, not even FOX News. I seriously doubt these images have been broadcast by any TV News outlet. I first saw them on.......wait for it.......

FREE REPUBLIC!!!

Hooray for the NUMBER ONE source of truth-in-information on the planet!!!
These photos are not new either. I saw them about two years ago.

Thanks for your reply. Did you take the link and look at the other pics? It is an education on ANWR and the scenery is stunning. Here is the photo index page of another website dedicated to TAPS Trans-Alaska Pipeline System. It documents the construction of the Pipeline. Also beautiful and informative. They spared no expense in making it safe, efficient and VERY low impact.

47 posted on 11/21/2002 7:42:15 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: madfly
Here's a ping to you for a change. ; )
48 posted on 11/21/2002 8:00:58 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: BOBTHENAILER
they are gonna rape Mother Nature.

That is nearly the exact phrase that came from the mouth of my lib friend in regards to the billboard.....in a very hysterical and high pitched fashion I might add.

EBUCK

49 posted on 11/21/2002 1:17:50 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: TigersEye
Rush? You mean Rush Limbaugh? The guy who gets his show prep from FR? Boy, that Tiny Tommy sure is dumb.

Well, I'll give Rush some credit. He certainly gave us some. Rush does a lot of research on his own, especially before the FR was even around. A lot from FR, yes. Not all by a long shot. We owe Rush. It was his promotion of windows 95 that got me here, for one.

Back to the topic at hand, I like the way you posted and captioned those pics. LOL! Styrofoam bears. Yeah those crazy oil guys. Thanks for exposing that devious 'big oil' hoax. FReegards....

50 posted on 11/21/2002 5:12:59 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I love Rush. I owe a lot to him for teaching me critical thinking. I first saw him on his TV show back in '93 I think it was. But like him I like to yank peoples chains.

Thanks for your kind comments. FReegards to you, Bro!

51 posted on 11/21/2002 7:40:40 PM PST by TigersEye
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
In fact, less impact than the environMENTALists cause on their world by their cars they drive.

Maybe our alternative plan to save the planet should be to recommend the environmentalists all should voluntarily get sterilized.

52 posted on 11/23/2002 2:36:40 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: TigersEye
They spared no expense in making it safe, efficient and VERY low impact.

As far as being SAFE, we just experienced a magnitude7.9 earthquake.

There were bent VSM's, even broken VSM's. The pipe was off the VSM's in several places,BUT, there was no SPILLED OIL.

There were millions of dollars lost while the pipeline was shut down for repairs, but no spilled oil.

53 posted on 11/23/2002 3:52:25 AM PST by snowtigger
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To: bybybill
The animals are not styrafoam images, but enhance computer graphics. Grasses, Animals and flowers are digitized and placed by artists hired by the greedy oil men (Bush's cronies)
54 posted on 11/23/2002 4:28:12 AM PST by stocksthatgoup
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To: patriciaruth
Ha! thanks for the morning chuckle, I needed it!
55 posted on 11/23/2002 5:15:35 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: snowtigger
Thank you for that real world reality check. I based my opinion on photos of the materials and process of construction. Having spent a few years building houses from the ground up my interest is always peaked about how things are built. It appeared to me that they didn't half-step on anything concerning that pipeline. And why would they? As you point out even a short term interruption costs millions of dollars.

As far as oil being spilled from the pipeline they have valve gates at intervals all along its length don't they? I imagine they are automatically and/or remotely controlled.

Anyway, from the point of view of an engineer, a craftsman or a tradesman its construction is a beautiful thing. Barring any discussion of what it's like working in sub-zero weather hundreds of miles from the nearest human settlement. ; )
56 posted on 11/23/2002 11:38:33 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: stocksthatgoup
The animals are not styrafoam images, but enhance computer graphics. Grasses, Animals and flowers are digitized and placed by artists hired by the greedy oil men (Bush's cronies)

You're right about that. My statements are a bit dated. The styrofoam models have been replaced with digital technology and in fact with cutting edge laser holography they can take groups of people like CongressCritters on onsite tours and project immense herds of computer generated animals over a computer generated landscape right in front of their eyes.

As this technology improves they don't even have to actually take them to Alaska as the holographic 'reality' begins as soon as they get on the plane. But they do cover up tens of thousands of acres of burned and oil flooded plains with pretty images of tiny settlements in a pristine landscape for those that insist on going there by their own means.

Lots of hunters have been fooled into thinking they actually killed a caribou or a polar bear. Those 'guided hunts' are just another way of recouping the enormous cost of covering up there filthy business.

57 posted on 11/23/2002 11:56:51 AM PST by TigersEye
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To: TigersEye
As far as oil being spilled from the pipeline they have valve gates at intervals all along its length don't they? I imagine they are automatically and/or remotely controlled.

Yes, they have valves that automatically close when there is a sudden pressure drop, and technicians watching guages, monitoring every aspect of the pipline.If something goes wrong, it can be shut down immediately.

The BS about uncaring oil companies spilling oil all over the place through negligence is just that, BS. They are in the pipline business to make money. When that line is shut down nobody makes money.

Stockholders, including most pension funds, are invested to make money. Therefore it is in everyone's best interest to keep it moving.

During the Arctic winter, if it is shut down for an extended time, the oil would become so stiff that it could not be coaxed into moving again until summer. Stockholders would demand heads roll for that. This is only one more incentive for it's managers to keep it in top shape.

It is interesting to note that the only two major leaks were deliberate acts of vandalism. The latest perpetrator is on trial here right now. He faces several felony counts from his actions. The clean-up is still going on, months later.

The construction is indeed a beautiful thing, especially when one considers the remoteness and adverse weather conditions encountered by the workers. Kinda disproves the theory about the inferior American worker, doesn't it?

As far as ANWR being a beautiful place, that's a matter of opinion. It's about half surface water, with the other half being slightly less wet. In the winter it is a barren wasteland, occupied only by small rodents and Arctic foxes. Even the Caribou get the H#$%l out of there and head for greener pastures. Polar bears hibernate.

In summer, besides being mostly water, mosquitoes are so thick you literally inhale them with every breath. A warm day can reach the low 80's, but the average day will top out in the 50's or low 60's, with a constant dirzzling rain. All in all, a really good place for an oil field, caribou, and not much else.

BTW, on hot days I have seen caribou resting under the modules to escape the worst of the mosquitoes. They are really belligerent when you accidentally startle them.

58 posted on 11/27/2002 11:22:20 AM PST by snowtigger
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59 posted on 01/11/2003 4:48:39 PM PST by Coleus (Hello Ball)
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