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Origin Of Liberalism
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| November 18, 2002
| Charlie Reese
Posted on 11/18/2002 6:24:15 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
This is what paradoxically leads him to be anti-democratic,
Good piece, I question this assumption tho. Liberals, and all authoritarians, are always attempting to claim the will of the majority. It avoids the Constitutional argument
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11/18/2002 6:36:29 AM PST
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steve50
To: stainlessbanner
I for one do not suscribe to this vision of the New Englander. New Hampshire Maine and Vermont used to be populated with people who were certainly not involved in other people's business. The influx from the New York and Boston areas has changed the character of most of New England.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
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11/18/2002 6:56:50 AM PST
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harpseal
To: stainlessbanner
That's funny,I could have sworn that"Liberalism"had it's origins in the writings of Karl Marx!!
To: bandleader
One American political philosopher, Richard Weaver, placed the blame for liberalism on the writings of William of Ockham (1280-1349).
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11/18/2002 7:43:41 AM PST
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wideawake
To: stainlessbanner
"Liberalism," and other aspects of PC Compassion Fascism, are the decadent end products of White Protestantism. You'll find it where-ever such folks are long established, prosperous, industrious and well-fed. Eventually, their spoiled off-spring become guilt-complexed over their own success and rebel.
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To: stainlessbanner
This desire to make everyone like himself is a major characteristic of the modern liberal. This is what paradoxically leads him to be anti-democratic, for the desire to make others conform to his opinion causes him to cast dissidents into the outer darkness. He is so self-righteous that he honestly believes that anyone with a different set of opinions must be either stupid or evil.This is not just an illness of the left. It's a symptom of the dogmatic and totalitarian "anti-democratic" breed in general. A creature found on both sides of the political spectrum.
Coming from a conservative Southern family, there were three phrases I heard extremely often phrases one almost never hears today in our liberal society. They were: "Mind your own business"; "It's none of your business";
Disagree. I've heard these in "liberal society", too.
The chief characteristic of the true conservative is a willingness to let other people be what they are, for good or ill,
I think self-proclaimed "true conservatives" could debate this one but good for a while....
....just as the chief characteristic of the modern liberal is the compulsion to make others conform to his ideas of what's good for them.
Again, applicable to dogmatists of all stripes.
We are enormously less free today than when I was a boy, and in every instance, the loss of freedom has been justified as "good for us."
"Enormously"? Way overstated. We are freer, I believe. Just freer in different areas, less free in others.
It's too bad more people aren't concerned about that loss of freedom. They will find that security will prove to be illusory, but the loss of freedom will be quite real.
Hammer, nail.
To: TonyRo76
I believe it was Methodist founder John Wesley(?)who said something like that the very characteristics of righteous living (thrift, industry, self-restraint, etc.) would eventually create enough wealth and leisure time to give birth to the opposite (sloth, greed, decadence, leisure).
The New England Busy-bodies are fallen Puritans. Just look at the UK and the Anglicans. Once the Brits became a success, they became guilty-feeling.
To: stainlessbanner
The chief characteristic of the true conservative is a willingness to let other people be what they are, for good or ill, just as the chief characteristic of the modern liberal is the compulsion to make others conform to his ideas of what's good for them. Well said! And you'll note he said TRUE conservatives, not the liberal nanny state loveing neo-cons that seem to have developed as the mainstream around here.
To: The FRugitive
"Government is not the solution to our problem; government *is* the problem." - Ronald Reagan
"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves." - Ronald Reagan
"If you analyze it, I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism .... The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is." - Ronald Reagan
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To: The FRugitive
"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Regan
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11/18/2002 9:05:01 AM PST
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hosepipe
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To: pollwatcher
Funny then how statistically white protestants are the least liberal group.
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11/18/2002 9:35:36 AM PST
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weikel
To: stainlessbanner
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What we call today "liberalism" was born in New England. In 1864, Orestes Brownson, a New Englander himself, wrote an essay contrasting Southern and Northern societies. His description of the New Englander describes exactly the modern liberal."Note....he says what "we" call liberalism....this is NOT the origin of the term or it's correct useage. The word has been bastardized by those on the left who choose to dwindle our liberties and disguise these attempts by portraying themselves as "liberals". Recall that our founding fathers were what we now call "classic liberals". The term conservative has its roots in reactionism....which would describe the left and it's continued desire to rely on the state.
It is so depressing when those on the right, follow along with the lefts linguistic manipulations...and to think that most of us read Orwell in High School.
At any rate, I will continue to call myself a proud classic Liberal.
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11/18/2002 10:08:33 AM PST
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Katya
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