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You BASTARDS. We are going to KILL the LOT of YOU.

Ivan


1 posted on 11/16/2002 12:57:09 PM PST by MadIvan
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bttt

Stay safe Ivan.
90 posted on 11/16/2002 1:55:26 PM PST by lodwick
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101 posted on 11/16/2002 2:02:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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MI15 really went undercover for this one.
108 posted on 11/16/2002 2:05:36 PM PST by paltz
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Well maybe after this incident the British polls showing Bush as the most dangergous thread will take a reversal
109 posted on 11/16/2002 2:07:33 PM PST by uncbob
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England needs to be less wishy washy about their immigration policies.
111 posted on 11/16/2002 2:09:07 PM PST by dogbyte12
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Well put! However, there are others that need to be dead...

One of the problems is easily seen with the situation that Israel's been in for nearly all of its existance...

Starting in 1956, every war that Israel has fought has NOT been fought to the finish. In fact, the same can be said of every war that the US has fought since WWII. The only way that a war can truely come to an end is by having the loser no longer be cabable of making war, at least not during the lifetimes of the fighters, or more importantly, the leaders.

In every war since their first war, where they really weren't in any shape to continue the fight, external forces (i.e. the UN) has stepped in as soon as it became clear that the aggressors (i.e. the arabs) were losing. Of course, this was due to the proxy nature of the wars, with the USSR supporting the arabs, and the US supporting Israel. For instance, in 1956, Egypt ordered the UN out of its way in order for them to attack, but Israel struck first, winning the war in 6 days. But they didn't press on to destroy the war making capabilities of their enemies, due to outside pressure.

Being civilized countries, Israel, the US and the UK can't and will not (thankfully) do what really should be done regarding terrorists: Kill them wherever they're found. Kill anyone suspected of supporting them. When the dead terrorists are identified, kill their families. Hell, when Israel goes so far as demolishing the homes of the families of the dead terrorists, the rest of the world goes ape! And the threat of sending the families into exile brings on accusations of "war crimes." There really isn't any thing else you can do, when the terrorists know that their families will be provided for after they're gone... Knowing that their families will be homeless and in exile is something of a deterrent, before the fact. I believe that the fore-knowledge of the certain death of their family members would be an even greater deterrant.

In addition to that, track down the money, and kill anyone involved in supplying aid and logistics to the terrorists. It's amazing how quickly the money will dry up for terrorist activities once bankers and executives start dying. And regarding countries and clerics who support that sort of thing, make it clear to them that the "kid gloves" are about to come off. While the President said, "Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists," it seems to me that the words are just that. Make it clear that if they (the "moderate" muslims) don't "clean house," then we'll have no choice but to lump them all in together. With very few exceptions, the silence has been defening with regard to "moderate" muslims denouncing the evil actions of "the "extremeist" moslems.

On the one hand, suggesting this sort of thing sickens me, and I'm thankful that we (i.e. western civilization) don't do this sort of thing, but I'm afraid that may be the only way to guarantee that terrorism will end.

Mark
113 posted on 11/16/2002 2:12:20 PM PST by MarkL
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BUMP.

..........ferociously angry and more determined to see that you all die. We are coming now, you bastards. The SAS is going to cut out your hearts and shove them down your ignorant throats...........

I've used The Tube ("Mind the gap") on my visits to friends in London...............DIE,YOU FASCIST, HOMICIDAL, BASTARDS.

YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BREATH THE SAME AIR, PARTAKE IN THE SAME LIBERTIES, AND ENJOY THE SAME PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW AS THE FREE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN..................and hopefully you won't for much longer.

118 posted on 11/16/2002 2:20:34 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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Go get'em Ivan. We're right behind you bud.
123 posted on 11/16/2002 2:27:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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Now Ivan you may have this all wrong. Islam is the religion of peace and what really happened is that these three guys just happened to get a hold of some cyanide and just wanted to "share" it with others. [/sarcasm]

Thank God for MI5!!!!!

129 posted on 11/16/2002 2:31:37 PM PST by Reborn
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Smite the jihadists wherever you find them! No one should wait for a catastrophe with a million caualties. Kofi Anus is stalling for Saddam and Al Qaida. If the U.S. and U.K. are sovereign states, the blatherings of the UN should be meaningless, and have no bearing on these issues of U.S. and U.K. national security.
134 posted on 11/16/2002 2:36:35 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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Jolly good show, MI5!

It does make one wonder, though, how many other cells there are that have NOT BEEN infiltrated. . . or how many cells that MI5 and the CIA/FBI don't even know about. Those are the ones that really worry me -- and should indeed worry us all.

139 posted on 11/16/2002 2:42:51 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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Stay safe, Ivan.
142 posted on 11/16/2002 2:44:42 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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You BASTARDS. We are going to KILL the LOT of YOU.

Stay safe, FRiend.

BTW, is there a system in place in the UK similar to or different from the "terrorism alert system" that was implemented here in the US some months back? And if, so, is it as vague (due to PC "concerns") as what has been established here? -- e.g. "We have secret information pointing to a possible terrorist attack by unmentionable terrorists that we can't tell you anything about. We are currently at Yellow Alert, which means you should be afraid, but we really can't offer you any advice as to what you should do to protect yourself and your family, friends, neighbors, and countrymen. We will soon reach Red Alert, which means you should be VERY afraid, but we still can't offer you any advice. We are purposefully being vague because we are too spineless to tell you the truth, which is that you should arm yourselves to the teeth, and keep a careful watch out for suspicious behavior by swarthy males between the ages of 15 and 55, because they vicious, subhuman, evil monsters who are plotting to murder you, your family, your friends and neighbors, and your fellow countryman."

Just curious.

147 posted on 11/16/2002 2:48:56 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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More evidence supporting the "religion of peace"... Pieces of non muslims scattered across the globe.
149 posted on 11/16/2002 2:51:30 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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Three men have been charged over an alleged plot to release cyanide gas on the London Underground tube network. The men are north African muslims said to belong to a group linked to al Qaeda.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

154 posted on 11/16/2002 2:56:04 PM PST by knighthawk
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Greetings, Ivan. Although I was born in New Jersey, and my mother was born in Oklahoma, she was from English-Irish stock. I belive as long as the British and we Americans continue to stand shoulder to shoulder, no enemy can ever defeat us. True, they may bloody us from time to time. But defeat? Never! Channel your anger into saving Britain from the Euro-socialists who want to subvert your national sovereignty to a squishy Euro version of the United States. It is they who invite radical Islamists into your midst and use the club of "racism" to quash dissent.
156 posted on 11/16/2002 2:59:59 PM PST by Wolfstar
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When I heard about this, my first thoughts were of you and your family.
161 posted on 11/16/2002 3:09:08 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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Mate...Its Bush's fault dont ya know?
168 posted on 11/16/2002 3:15:01 PM PST by woofie
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If we knew how to take out bin Laden, would we or would we just follow him and bug his communications ? If the rats in congress knew Bush was doing this would they gang up on him anyways and act like they didn't know ?
171 posted on 11/16/2002 3:18:25 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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This rates a 9.5 on my butt pucker meter regarding riding the NYC Subway. This is just one of the reasons I ride my bike to work these days.

This stinks and I HOPE this is not related to the new Al Qaeda statement CNN is reporting tonight regarding attacks in Washington DC and NY.
176 posted on 11/16/2002 3:22:49 PM PST by finnman69
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