Posted on 11/15/2002 5:36:33 PM PST by Bush2000
Java and .Net both a disaster: research "An inordinately large number of large-scale Java projects have been failures," said Mark Driver, Gartner research director for Internet and ebusiness technologies.
By Angus Kidman, ZDNet Australia
15 November 2002
Still trying to decide whether your enterprise development architecture should be based around Sun's Java or Microsoft's .NET? Perhaps you should be more worried about whether either of them is going to work at all.
To date, around 70 percent of initial Java implementations have been unsuccessful, according to new research from Gartner Group.
However, Microsoft shouldn't draw any comfort from those figures as it seeks to promote its .NET technology strategy either. In all likelihood, the failure rate for early implementations of .NET systems will be similar, Driver said.
"The only practical way to mitigate the risk [of a failed implementation] is to outsource development."
Despite those problems for early adopters, Gartner is predicting that by 2005, the battle for enterprise development supremacy will be a neck-and-neck two horse race, with Java and .NET each commanding around 40 percent of the market.
"Most larger organisations are going to have both platforms," said Driver. "They have become de facto standards." Both Microsoft and Sun have recently confessed to flaws in their overall strategy.
Earlier this week, Microsoft founder Bill Gates admitted that the company's promotion of .NET had been premature.
Sun meanwhile has finally managed to achieved admission to the Web Services Interoperability Organisation, but hasn't yet achieved its ambition of a board seat.
Huh?? Apples and Oranges.
COBOL.
Posts like this, on the other hand, are childish and just f'ing boring. Have you nothing better to do?
Over a period of time, based on each of your posts, it has become obvious that neither yourself or Dominic have the brains, imagination or talent to create anything on your chosen platforms that would rock anyones boat.
If you did have anything substantial to offer you would not be fiddling around here having these juvenile little posting wars.
You are all hat and no cattle B2k.
That could be due to Real's privacy policies as much as anything else.
There seems almost a law in this business that as soon as a decent technology is developed, the Business Types destroy it with apallingly stupid decisions..
I am guessing the remaining 20% are going to be solutions based on web page technology (XHTML, XML, etc.) that is generated largely the "old fashioned way," interfacing to back-end scripting done in languages like perl, python, C/C++, and others, without any reliance on more complicated environments like Java Runtime Engines or .NET-type support.
Throw in emerging standalone XML tools (and XSLT) and you can still do a LOT of stuff without Java or .NET.
I'll defer to your knowledge of 1-2-3 on this. I never really used it that much.
Microsoft has done well ... but how many giant condom awards can a CEO recieve before he ... whatever ...
No. Way. Excel kicks 123's butt ALL OVER the place. Have you used a recent release of Lotus SmartSuite lately? *shudder*
I pass the baton to you. ;-)
There is only one reason that Java became popular, and that is because it lets idiots write code. It lets them feel as though they were actually accomplishing something. If you take 90% of Java programmers, and to be fair, 90% of Visual Basic programmers, and had them deal with pointers and garbage collection on their own, they would freak out.
Take that same group and have them approach solid OOP concepts, and they might just take hostages, and scream for their mommies.
The reason that this is different for .NET, is that you are not restricted to managed code, C++ is still around, and you are not getting anywhere with .NET without understanding OOP.
A big plus for .NET is code-behind; I cant imagine anyone wanting to use anything else for web applications after using that just once.
Java doesnt suck, and VB.NET can do everything C# can except for XML Documentation, but it's the people who rely on those tools who DO suck much of the time.
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