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Microsoft's New Privacy Row
ISP-Planet News ^ | October 23, 2002 | Dan Orzech

Posted on 11/13/2002 3:27:34 PM PST by Action-America

Microsoft's New Privacy Row

It's not the EFF that's worried about privacy this time.  It's bankers like Lester Warby, CIO of Seattle Metropolitan Credit Union, who feel that the latest license terms might well put the him in violation of new federal privacy laws.
 

by Dan Orzech
of internetnews.com

[October 23, 2002]

Lester Warby is the kind of guy who reads the fine print. And the fine print for the latest updates to Microsoft Windows has him worried.

Warby—who is the chief information officer at Seattle Metropolitan Credit Union—believes that the terms for the end user license agreement (EULA) for Microsoft's Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3) and XP Service Pack 1, might well put the credit union in violation of new federal privacy laws.

At issue is Microsoft's "automatic update" feature, which allows users to automatically get upgrades and patches to their systems. To get the updates, users must agree to give Microsoft access to information on their systems.

That, says Warby, conflicts with federal regulations for financial institutions, such as the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 2001. The new law, which goes into effect next May, forbids financial service companies from giving third parties access to customer data without express consent from the customer. European countries generally have even stricter data privacy laws.

"We're forced into a position where we're either out of compliance with Microsoft's licensing, which is not acceptable, or we're out of compliance with the law, which is not acceptable either. Under these circumstances, we'll probably change our operating system," says Warby.

Warby is considering shifting his servers to another operating system like Novell or Linux, if Microsoft doesn't change its policy.

What—exactly—is software?
To use the "auto update" feature, according to the Microsoft Windows 2000 SP3 license, "it is necessary to use certain computer system, hardware, and software information...by using these features, users authorize Microsoft or its designated agent to access and utilize the necessary information for updating purposes."

The problem with that language, says industry analyst Joshua Greenbaum, of Enterprise Applications Consulting, in Daly City, Calif., is that the phrase "software information" is vague.

The term could include "information about proprietary systems, or about data," he says. "Does a stored procedure—which could contain proprietary algorithms—constitute software? Does the term include information about competitor's products, or about the use of software from a company with whom Microsoft might have a legal dispute?"

Microsoft does provide users with a high level of control over the auto update feature. Windows XP ships with the feature turned off, for example, so users must choose to activate it. And Microsoft notifies users of any updates, requiring them to agree to install them.

"Most home and small office users don't like to apply patches and updates," says Warby—who describes himself as "pro-Microsoft" in general—"so having Microsoft do this automatically for them would be a real value-added service." Microsoft is not the only company that offers such a service: Apple Computer's latest operating system, OS X, offers a similar feature called Software Update.

But what works for home users is not necessarily suitable for financial institutions, with their high level of security concerns, says Warby. And Warby says Microsoft has told him that it plans eventually to eliminate users' ability to disable Microsoft's access to their systems.

Microsoft had no comment on this issue, but if true, it is likely motivated by Redmond's concern about illegal copies of its software. Microsoft's license for Windows XP SP1 says:

Solely for the purpose of preventing unlicensed use of the applicable OS Software, the OS Components will include installation on your computer of technological measures that are designed to prevent unlicensed use, and Microsoft may use this technology to confirm that you have a licensed copy of the OS Software.

This is done through a product key that is sent to Microsoft over the Internet. That means Microsoft must send an authorization back to your system, says Warby, requiring it to have access to your system.

That makes Warby nervous. "Microsoft is definitely not known for their internal security," he says, citing undocumented macros in some Microsoft programs, which can be accessed by those who know the right combination of keystrokes. "The idea of Microsoft coming into a server, creates a potentially huge security risk," he says.

Of equal concern, says Warby, is that by agreeing to the Windows 2000 SP3 licensing terms, the credit union is potentially granting access not just to Microsoft, but to its "designated agents" The Microsoft license offers no assurances about who those companies might be, says Warby. "What if the designated agent is some small company overseas," he says, "in a country with a lax legal system?"

Financial institutions generally require background checks and assurances such as bonding before giving any outsider access to their systems. Oxford Global Technologies, for example, a Beverly, Mass.-based systems integrator, went through extensive security checks before it was allowed to provide remote Oracle database administration to financial industry clients. "One of our clients is a major brokerage house," says Paul Campbell, the firm's CTO. "They not only did background checks on our employees, but reviewed our software systems, and insisted that the security company which guards our building be approved as well."

 


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: linux; mac; microsoft; novell; privacy; win2k; xp
Every time Microsloth does something like this, it becomes more and more obvious to both business and home users, they should be using LINUX for servers and Mac's on the desktop.  The only reason that I don't use LINUX and Macs exclusively, is because I make too much money fixing MS-Windows related problems for my clients.  But I learned a long time ago, not to keep any of my mission critical applications or data on Microsoft platforms.

 

1 posted on 11/13/2002 3:27:34 PM PST by Action-America
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To: Action-America
Since this is just about the automatic updating system, just disable that part. I've got it disabled on all the systems here already, and in our upcoming Windows XP, yeah, it's turned off via the policies. Big whoop.
2 posted on 11/13/2002 3:35:03 PM PST by MPB
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To: MPB
The problem is that most installers don't read the licence agreements and most just accept what is offered.

So the problem is not just whether the nice folks at Redmond have the right to browse through your system, they also may have been given the right to browse through the systems of the organizations with which you deal and to whom you may have given confidential information.

You might also want to take a close look at the agreement that you must accept when you do a manual download and install of an upgrade.

3 posted on 11/13/2002 3:43:46 PM PST by Clive
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To: Action-America
Seems to me that use of the Win2K SP3 or WinXP SP1 will make those platforms unsuitable for ANY heath providing office required to meet HIPAA standards... by violating FEDERAL privacy standards. Seems that it could also violate attorney/client privacy standards, so forget the legal profession. You already mentioned the financial industry...

Is it any wonder that I'm starting to think Microsoft may do to themselves what the federal government (justice department) couldn't do?

Cheers!

4 posted on 11/13/2002 3:53:43 PM PST by drachenfels
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To: Clive
The only company that can screw things up for Microsoft is Microsoft. Is there any reason for them to be this customer-unfriendly? Has their legal department been infiltrated by Linux-supporting saboteurs?
5 posted on 11/13/2002 4:06:13 PM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
Toyland's corporate culture has been paranoid from day one.
6 posted on 11/13/2002 4:12:14 PM PST by Clive
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To: eno_
I've been a big fan of Microsoft, since I loaded my first copy of DOS. Moved to Windows. Microsoft Works got me through College. Moved to Windows '98 first in my company, and to NT when I learned it was stronger.

Then the creepy feeling set in. I started to notice over the years that MS has slowly turned into a "Maximize Profit" organization. Each year, they release so much, and it costs a lot. Nothing is free; everything is about money. I still run NT at home.

Their marketing departtment took over, and makes money, but ruined their reputation. They want sales, and money, and will do whatever it takes to get the most money out of us.

*sigh*

I've avoided it so far, but even me, a longtime MS fan, is looking at Linux.
7 posted on 11/13/2002 5:48:05 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: Action-America
This is done through a product key that is sent to xxx over the Internet. That means xxx must send an authorization back to your system, says Warby, requiring it to have access to your system.

Eek. Financial systems should not be connected to the Internet. Period.

8 posted on 11/13/2002 6:31:41 PM PST by altair
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To: MonroeDNA
What would a corporation half the size of microsoft and 1/4 as profitable be worth? The question is will anyone try it.

Microsoft will never be defeated by LINUX or any UNIX variant. Just as the Mac could not beat the IBM Pc. But a college student beat IBM out of its 85% market share from his dorm room with the Dell Pc Clone. Dell didn't build a PC that was better than the IBM pc. He build a PC that was identical to the IBM Pc and cost less. What a novel concept.

If someone really wants to Destory bill gates all they have to do is CLONE Windows and sell it under friendlier terms and at slightly lest cost.

The MAC could not take the PC No matter how much better it was. And LINUX can't take Windows any more than the MAC could take the PC.

But a windows clone could do to Gates what Dell did to IBM. It could take Gates to 10 percent of the market. Once someone Cloned windows and made some bucks others would do it too. Just as Gateway and Compaq followed Dell into the fray.

Those that think LINUX can hurt Gates thought the MAC would hurt IBM. It can't. Clones HURT and not much else.

9 posted on 11/13/2002 7:25:43 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: altair
This is done through a product key that is sent to xxx over the Internet. That means xxx must send an authorization back to your system, says Warby, requiring it to have access to your system.

Eek. Financial systems should not be connected to the Internet. Period.

So don't use the Internet for product-key validation. Instead, just call Microsoft's 888 number and activate that way. Of course, I'm sure the 50+ digit number you have to give Microsoft probably includes various useful goodies like your network card's MAC address, but I don't think they could fit much personal or financial data in the 50+ digits even if they wanted to.

10 posted on 11/13/2002 7:39:39 PM PST by supercat
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To: Action-America
Just get XP SP-1 off the newsgroups and update that way:)
11 posted on 11/13/2002 8:21:27 PM PST by BobS
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