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I felt that our veterans and current members of the military deserved a thread today. I hope that folks will join me in wishing them well on this thread.
1 posted on 11/11/2002 3:51:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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Two "thank you"s:

Thanks DoughtyOne for this tribute. It means something to those of us who have served.

Thanks to anyone, in this thread or not, living or dead, who has worn the uniform of the United States and defended her. They say if you love your freedom, thank a Vet. Ido, and so, I do. We can never thank you all enough, God bless you.

96 posted on 11/11/2002 4:35:55 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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Thank you DoughtyOne for the beautiful tribute, and thank you, thank you, thank you! to all of our nation's brave men and women who have served and currently serve our great United States in the armed forces.

We love you, appreciate you, and know we wouldn't be a great nation without you!

97 posted on 11/11/2002 4:47:53 PM PST by NautiNurse
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Thank You and God Bless You, to all who served, and who currently serve our country. We would not be living in the freedom of our great nation if it was not for your sacrifices. As has been said many times, we can never repay the debt we owe to you. Saying a Prayer now, that we will always honor our Veterans and never take our freedoms for granted. Amen

My grandfather served in WWII, my dad in Korea, My uncle was a Marine, and my God-daughter is in the Army.

98 posted on 11/11/2002 5:08:50 PM PST by fly_so_free
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I do not intend to be, or sound, facetious, nor do I think it's a rhetorical question to ask: Given the general tenor of FR, does the thread's salute and solemn invocation of thanks to our veterans include those vets who choose to be Democrats? I ask because, like most folks, I have many friends in my Alumni Chapter, American Legion Post, etc. and other groups who are indeed Democrats. Do we honor them for their service, or do we ignore their contributions and exclude them from our best wishes because their politics are anathema to be majority of FR posters?

Just thought I'd ask.

99 posted on 11/11/2002 5:18:30 PM PST by middie
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U.S. soldier Sgt. Ted Mays of Pineville, Louisiana, 55, poses in front of the flag of the USA, at the office of the 769th Engineering Battalion, at U.S. Air Base in Bagram, 55 kms (34 miles) north of Kabul, Afghanistan (news - web sites), on Friday, Nov. 8, 2002. Mays served two tours in Vietnam and he served in operation Desert Storm in Iraq and volunteered to come to Afghanistan. Even though he is again thousands of miles from home this Veterans Day, Sept. 11 makes the difference, he says. ``The other two times, itwas in someone else's backyard. This time, it was in my backyard. This one's for me. I think a lot of people think that way, which is why they support us,'' said Mays. (AP Photo/Amel Emric)

100 posted on 11/11/2002 5:49:34 PM PST by Toidylop
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Thanks for this tribute.

I am one of the few who, based upon the year of my birth, never had to register for the draft in any way, shape, or form. I think there were one or two years like that. I am so thankful for never having to fear going to war that I can't express it in words. I watched "Saving Private Ryan" again the other night and just watching it gripped my body with fear all over again as though I was watching it for the first time. My two younger brothers were US Marines and my father served in the US Navy but none thankfully saw in combat. I am thankful to be able to help the US Air Force help deliver the best in reconaissance, weather, navigation, communications and warfighter satellites in my current position. My life is, however, not on the line every moment of every day for months at a time. I can't even imagine. Thanks from the bottom of my heart, veterans! God bless you always!
102 posted on 11/11/2002 6:59:32 PM PST by Rockitz
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God Bless those who have & are now serving this great country & all who dwell within her borders.
106 posted on 11/11/2002 7:36:48 PM PST by Kev-Head
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Veterans Day - a day set aside for a nation to show its gratitude for those who keep the bad guys at bay. The usual parades and speeches, flags and festivals fill the day. Vets from around the republic feel appreciated or do they?

Deep inside, what do vets want? While I can not begin to speak for the millions of veterans in our nation, I can say what I want and what I don't want.

The last thing I want is for some politician, who found his life too busy for full-time service, to speak glowingly about the importance of military service and sacrifice. I think this about covers most of Congress, and our last two presidents. Slinking around behind the Iron Curtain and being sequestered in the Air Guard with the children of other influential families qualifies as "too busy" for service. Spare me the talk and get to the bottom of widespread illnesses that afflict those whom went into harm's way at the behest of those who were "too busy."

Parades are nice, as are memorials, but the greatest tribute one can make to a vet, is to follow in their footsteps. To step up and be counted among those who believe that certain things are greater than our "busy" schedule, is the mark of a grateful individual and a grateful nation.

My grandfathers were born in the '20s, which means they served in WW2. They saw the worst humanity has to offer. They could have had deferments, but they went. My great uncle never came back. They served with the men who cracked the Atlantic Wall, liberated North Africa and France. They were at Okinawa, Leyte Gulf, and in some way, supported the few men that won the greatest naval battle in world history - Midway. Without the efforts of the vets and deceased in that war, the 20th Century would not have been "America's Century." The Soviet Union would have emerged as the greatest power in the late '40s.

How do we show our gratitude? I say the best way is to serve - to stand your watch over our republic, and if harm should come, not to wilt in the face of adversity. That is how we thank our vets.

So, how does a nation, totally dependant on air and sea power, show its gratitude? Do they serve? In a word...

NO.

My church has about 1000 adults in attendance on any given Sunday. This past Sunday, all the veterans were invited to stand and accept the gratitude of the remainder. Less than a dozen stood. Do the math...that's about 1%, which includes those who served in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. If you factor out the airline pilots, no one under 40 is a vet, which is significant with 80% of the church body in their 30s and 40s. Lest anyone think I live in San Francisco, Seattle, New York, or some pot-infested beach town on the West Coast, I live in lily-white suburb just north of Dallas, TX.

It gets worse. My daughter's school has an annual commemoration of all the veterans in the families of the children. Each student writes the name of a vet on a star, and posts them on the wall for all to see. Of the 500+ stars, there were only three of parents of children at the school. The rest were WW2 and Korea vets, with a smattering of Vietnam vets. The school is p-K through 2nd grade, and has about 150 students.

Again, people are just too busy.

What are our vets fighting for? The UN? The blessings of an Arab coalition? The ability of a nation of brainless women who drive around the 'burbs in their Ford Extinctions, shuttling Johnny, Jessica, and Joshua to and from soccer practice, while voting for president based upon how cute a candidate is, or how much he fills the emotional void of an absentee husband who is working 60 hours a week to afford the lifestyle of his bimbo wife? A distraction from newsworthy sexual escapades of a man selling military secrets to our enemies? To be a butt-insky in every civil war on the planet? Sweet crude at $15/bbl?

Is this the agenda of a grateful nation? My guess is that if Johnny, Jessica, and Joshua were serving in the military, their bimbo mom would care about Gulf War syndrome. Congressmen would be called to account for it. My guess is that as kiddies traded soccer cleats for combat boots, we would care if our military secrets were sold to our enemies, and most would tell the UN where to stick it. If OUR children were in the military (rich East Coasters, urbanites, white trash, and middle-class kids), we would allow people around the world to settle their own disputes, and if the price of oil went to $40/bbl, we would find that easier to digest. Perhaps all the 0% financing for the latest Ford Extinction would yield to keeping the van tuned up for another 50K. Perhaps we would be a nation that didn't have troops stationed on every corner of the globe, and we would pressure Congress to defund welfare programs, and modernize our military hardware.

That will never happen as long as most Americans view their military the way the French view their Foreign Legion - expendable "other people."

I do not begrudge any one individual who does not serve. The military cannot accept everyone, and there are those who just should not be trusted with the life of a fellow shipmate, marine, or soldier. I can say that I am disgusted with a nation, and a selfish generation that finds military service is best suited for "someone else." It is the same people that look upon the military as a social experiment (liberal elites), and those who take every opportunity to pontificate on how it should be run, and what rights those in uniform have and don't have (conservative elites), that find their blood and time are too precious to spend in service to a nation that has given so much.

Personally, I stand in awe of what those men accomplished at Midway in June of 1942. It was the greatest American moment of the 20th Century. If I were to walk up to LT Rich Best (he sank 2 carriers at Midway), and express my gratitude, that would be in order. Perhaps he would be more appreciative if those who thank him for giving us the second half of the 20th Century, followed in his footsteps. Deeds speak louder than words.

I find it sad that a nation thanks its vets by being too busy to do what the vets did. I guess the vets are "other people" and we are too good for them.

108 posted on 11/11/2002 9:31:55 PM PST by Orion
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From a U.S. Army retired "old soldier", Thanks.
111 posted on 11/12/2002 12:07:54 PM PST by hresources
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Thank you for taking the time, all of you, to remember our Veterans.

As you all know, my father is RANGERAIRBORNE. He must have had the crappiest Veterans' Day on record...he was in surgery.

Anyone who wants to send him a tiny note of thanks at his FReepmail addy would be so much appreciated. He will be healing from the surgery for weeks, but I am sure he will find a way to check on everyone here. ;)

Thank you again.

A very grateful rangersdaughter
115 posted on 11/12/2002 9:16:43 PM PST by rangersdaughter
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NFL salutes veterans and current military members during Veterans' Day Weekend
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/786542/posts


Also check out "Operation Uplink", the free phone card program for hospitalized veterans and active-duty service men and women.

116 posted on 11/13/2002 12:54:24 AM PST by quietolong
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Very, very inspiring and very much appreciated!! Gives me chills!
118 posted on 11/13/2002 8:34:41 AM PST by cthusker77
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