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Carrs knew violence and instability as children [Wichita Massacre]
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 11/10/02 | Ron Sylvester

Posted on 11/10/2002 7:22:27 AM PST by KS Flyover

Guilty... guilty... guilty... guilty.... Ninety-three times the jury answered the charges against Reginald and Jonathan Carr.

The verdicts resolved a weeklong crime spree that had turned nastier than anyone could imagine, culminating with four people shot to death Dec. 15, 2000. One woman survived to tell of a night of terror, rape and robbery that made a city cringe.

But the jury couldn't answer a question that still haunted Wichita: What kind of people would do this?

This past week, as the Dodge City brothers pleaded for their lives in the penalty phase of their capital murder trial, family members and friends tried to answer that question as they offered accounts of how the Carrs came to this point.

Reginald Dexter Carr Jr. was born Nov. 14, 1977, in Cleveland, Ohio. He arrived as the second of four babies to his namesake father and Janice Harding, who had her first child when she was 16 and Reginald Carr Sr. was 17.

The couple waited until three days after Janice's 18th birthday to marry because of objections from her mother, who was prone to sudden fits of rage.

Baby Regina arrived 14 months to the day behind Reginald Jr., followed by Jonathan on March 30, 1980. All were born prematurely.

Janice and Reginald Sr. tried to provide a good home. They went to church. Reginald Sr. worked his way up to chemist at a local factory. Janice mostly stayed home with the children. They lived in a neighborhood where people felt safe and could walk the streets at night. The children could play outdoors.

Then 2-year-old Regina got sick. Leukemia was a death sentence to a child then. They had to hold her down to give her the medication that would keep her alive only one more year.

Reginald Jr., then 4, was devastated by the loss of his little sister. But he didn't cry. Nobody in the family would remember ever hearing him cry. Jonathan, on the other hand, screamed and wailed as a baby. Reginald was the tough one. Jonathan was the sensitive one.

Janice blamed her husband for the sudden illness. She couldn't explain it, but she blamed him.

Life changed, some of the changes lost for years in shrouds of finger-pointing, secrecy and family shame. There would be stories of sexual infidelities between the spouses, attacks within the family and tales of incest involving everyone in the house. Reginald Jr. and Jonathan would be active in sexual play when most boys their age hadn't graduated from the sandbox.

The parents fought. They argued. They drank. They fought some more. They smoked pot. Reginald Sr. hit Janice. She fought back.

"You're not going to hit me again," Janice Harding said, armed with the baseball bat.

For years, Janice thought she had sheltered her children from the abuse. But the children, she would learn later, always know. Fighting, hitting, slugging, became the order of the day for Jonathan and Reginald Jr.

Then one day, when Reginald Sr. was at work, Janice moved with the children to her mother's house. She hadn't told the kids she planned to do that.

Reginald Jr. didn't have much contact with his father after that. He was 9 and Jonathan was 6 when their parents officially divorced in September 1986. Reginald Sr. quickly remarried, began a new family and eventually moved to California.

Family members remember Reginald Jr. never got over the feelings of anger, resentment and abandonment.

Within a year, a little girl at Harry Rice Elementary School accused Jonathan and several fellow students of raping her during a fire drill. The accusations spread throughout the community, and little Jonathan became known as one of the Harry Rice rapists. The girl later recanted her story; it turned out she and her sister had been molested by a relative.

Still, Jonathan was taunted at school, and the 7-year-old tried to hang himself. Eventually, Janice sent her youngest son to live with her sister Phyllis, who was beginning a career as a doctor in Brownsville, Texas.

Phyllis Harding had left home in 1973 to attend college and become a pediatrician. She adopted children of her own, but she also occasionally took in Janice's kids.

Jonathan and Reginald stayed with Phyllis for a while in Brownsville. She made sure they went to church every Sunday. They loved getting away from the chill of Cleveland to the warmth of Texas, where they liked to swim and fish. When the brothers were with Phyllis, they seemed like fun-loving boys. Then they'd return to Cleveland.

Jonathan and Reginald and their older sister became accustomed to their mother dropping them off with relatives. Sometimes they didn't see her for days.

The family was constantly on the move in the Cleveland area. Reginald and Jonathan attended eight schools in eight grades, never staying long enough to develop lasting relationships with teachers, friends or other people.

Janice had started another relationship that would last years and eventually turn to marriage. The new man in her life didn't step in as a father figure for the children. Instead, he continued the chain of violence. Years later, he'd even hold a gun to Janice's head.

When Phyllis Harding set up practice in Dodge City, with its close-knit community and small-town values, Janice Harding figured it might be a better place to raise her children. Her boys, Reginald and Jonathan, were nearing the rebellious teenage years.

The brothers picked on each other. They had BB guns, and they would shoot at animals and each other. Jonathan shot Reginald in the head, lodging a BB under his scalp.

Reginald had trouble controlling his adolescent urges. Besides having sex since he was 6 with little girls, Reginald had started drinking with uncles at around age 11 and holding drugs for them. He claimed to give drugs to his mother.

Life didn't change much in Dodge City. Reginald got into fights easily. He began skipping middle school. When he was there, he sexually harassed one teacher and threatened others. After a litany of suspensions, Reginald dropped out before he could be expelled.

Still, the boy seemed of normal intelligence, even bright to some. He quickly got his GED and looked toward attending classes at Dodge City Community College.

By the time he was 15, police were searching his mother's house, looking for drugs he supposedly sold. They didn't find anything.

His mother kicked him out of the house at age 16. The next year, he became a father when Richele Kossman gave birth to a boy two weeks after Reginald's 17th birthday.

The following year, Reginald Carr robbed the bookstore at Dodge City Community College wearing a mask resembling the killer Michael Myers in the movie "Halloween," threatening a woman and stealing about $500.

He was convicted of aggravated assault and theft and given probation.

But he kept violating the terms of his supervision. He sold drugs. Urine tests showed drug use. By Sept. 1, 1996, he had been convicted of possessing methamphetamine. That landed him in the Norton Correctional Facility on Oct. 23.

Reginald's second son was born exactly two months after he began his prison sentence. He married the boy's mother, Mandy, the next May.

Jonathan Carr was crushed when his older brother went to prison. Reginald was the only father figure he had known. Around the time Reginald went to prison, Jonathan's girlfriend dumped him and his dog died. Jonathan, 16, tried to commit suicide by drinking antifreeze.

But Jonathan also showed his older brother's propensity for getting into trouble. They had shared the experiences with childhood sex. Jonathan began having run-ins with juvenile authorities. Family members recalled one time he stole a truck with a friend to go joyriding. He threatened a probation officer by saying he would stab a pencil through her neck.

Jonathan Carr would appear vastly different, depending on where he was and whom he was around. He got a summer job doing carpentry work for an elderly couple. He impressed Leroy and Juanita Culver with his politeness and warm sense of humor.

By age 20, Jonathan had moved back to Cleveland, looking for another life. He found a girlfriend, Ebony Harris. Her father, Jesse, helped Jonathan get a job at Federal Steel. As long as Harris and Jonathan worked the same morning-to-afternoon shift, the young man did a good job. But when Jonathan was moved to the second shift, he started showing up late and Federal Steel fired him.

While in Cleveland, he was arrested but not charged in a convenience store robbery.

Harris offered to help find the young man another job. Jonathan declined.

He wanted to return to Dodge City, where his brother Reginald was getting out of prison.

The man who went into prison known as "Reggie" came out on March 28, 2000, wanting to be called "Smoke." He had been a discipline problem behind bars, fighting and hurting people, flashing female guards.

Janice Harding told her elder son to stay away from Jonathan.

"He doesn't need to be getting into trouble," she said.

Reginald moved in with Mandy Carr. But he didn't have a job. She supported him and their son. She got pregnant again. They fought. In August, they split.

In October, Reginald met Stephanie Donley at a Dodge City nightclub. She was a nurse and made good money, and she was moving to Wichita, where Reginald Carr's older sister lived.

Reginald remained on parole. He had to regularly report to supervisors until summer 2001. Even so, he couldn't stay out of trouble. He was arrested for driving while intoxicated and bonded out of the Ford County jail on Nov. 19. Nine days later, he was back in jail, charged with forgery and facing a parole violation.

But he got a break. A new law cutting parole for nonviolent offenders, coupled with a clerical error that gave him extra good-time credit, ended his parole Dec. 1. Reginald posted bond on the forgery charge and once again became a free man.

It was Dec. 4, 2000. Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan decided to take a trip to Wichita.


Reach Ron Sylvester at 268-6514 or rsylvester@wichitaeagle.com.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: carr; kansas; wichita; wichitamassacre
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To: glory
I've got you added to the list, glory.

I wonder if any members of the jury will be persuaded by this psycho-babble to go with a life sentence over the death penalty? I certainly hope not.

This was written about juror No. 3 before the trial started:
The race issue continued to fester during jury selection last week, when both prosecutors and defense lawyers tried to exclude a black man, a Boeing employee, from the jury. The defense objected to his strong support for the death penalty, while the prosecution said he appeared sympathetic toward the Carrs because of their race.

"I hate to see young black men go through this," the man said during jury selection.

But Sedgwick County Judge Paul Clark refused to dismiss him, citing the U.S. Supreme Court precedent in Batson vs. Kentucky, which bars courts from striking black jurors on the assumption that they would favor black defendants.


Juror No. 1 is a 23-year-old white male carpenter who neither favors nor opposes the death penalty.

Juror No. 2 is a 59-year old black male executive who strongly favors the death penalty.

Juror No. 3 is a 49-year-old black male who works at Boeing and favors the death penalty in certain cases.

Juror No. 4 is a 34-year-old white male Cessna machinist who strongly favors the death penalty and presumes the Carrs are guilty.

Juror No. 5 is 68-year-old retired white male civil aviation administrator who favors the death penalty in certain cases and presumes the Carrs guilty.

Juror No. 6 is a 23-year-old unemployed white female who neither favors nor opposes the death penalty and presumes the Carrs guilty.

Juror No. 7 is a 23-year-old white female accountant who neither favors nor opposes the death penalty.

Juror No. 8 is a 51-year-old white male Koch Materials employee who strongly favors the death penalty and presumes the Carrs are guilty.

Juror No. 9 is a 63-year-old white female nurse who strongly favors the death penalty.

Juror No. 10 is a 38-year-old white female department store worker who neither favors nor opposes the death penalty.

Juror No. 11 is a 30-year-old white male Boeing employee who neither favors nor opposes the death penalty.

Juror No. 12 is a 27-year-old white female who works in advertising who favors the death penalty in certain cases.


41 posted on 11/10/2002 11:36:13 AM PST by KS Flyover
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To: Gorzaloon
Nope, you are not alone.

Silly tripe written about evil animals.
42 posted on 11/10/2002 11:40:20 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: KS Flyover
Doesn't this:

Juror No. 3 is a 49-year-old black male who works at Boeing and favors the death penalty in certain cases.

contradict this statement of juror #3:

"I hate to see young black men go through this," the man said during jury selection.

43 posted on 11/10/2002 11:42:54 AM PST by IamHD
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To: IamHD
Well, maybe it doesn't. I reread it, and his initial comment was made during jury selection. Although, I sense a little "I'm sorry that another one of my bros." may end up in prison.
44 posted on 11/10/2002 11:48:48 AM PST by IamHD
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To: Delta 21
Don't apologize to me -- the thread nannies, er, I mean moderators (SORRY!!!), have software which now allows them to read such thoughts and censor them, while they are still in your brain.

BTW, you're right -- the news broadcasts here have had to give so many lengthy reports on poor Winona Ryder, that there just hasn't been any air time left to report on the Wichita Massacre trial.

45 posted on 11/10/2002 11:57:39 AM PST by mrustow
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To: IamHD
Doesn't this:

Juror No. 3 is a 49-year-old black male who works at Boeing and favors the death penalty in certain cases.

contradict this statement of juror #3:

"I hate to see young black men go through this," the man said during jury selection.

Not at all; it just means that he favors the death penalty for non-blacks.

46 posted on 11/10/2002 12:05:09 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
I'm really screwing up today. (making a note to myself; must read more clearly.) :)
47 posted on 11/10/2002 12:27:40 PM PST by IamHD
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To: KS Flyover
the only thing this shows me is how bleeped up the brothers were from the beginning.

The people around them were depraved too, but sadly that's just the way black inner city culture is. If you want something, whether its sex, or someone else's money you just take it. If you don't like something someone does you deal with them violently. If you want to live on welfare and get high all day, or be an able bodied young man hanging out with friends on the street corner instead of working, or drink till drunk with little kids, hey so what?

Entitlement, envy, covetousness, no respect for others, if it feels good do it, and an "its always someone else's fault" mentality, these are the cultural norms in black inner cities.

And until the people that comprise that culture are ready to take a serious look at themselves and change it, it will continue to turn out miscreants like these in large numbers.
48 posted on 11/10/2002 7:53:23 PM PST by Cubs Fan
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To: KS Flyover
I read the whole article and didn't notice a peep about the childhoods of the victims. Nothing about their families either. Only their murderers'. I'm sure it was just an oversight.
49 posted on 11/10/2002 8:01:41 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: IamHD
Of course, you're right. I thought that I'd just throw a 2nd reason out. When do you think the movie and book will come out? Well, maybe a book, 'cause if a movie were made, the perps would have to be totally covered so as not to show their race.

We'll be lucky to see even a book. I just bought a used copy of Zebra, Clark Howard's story of the Zebra killings, which by Howard's estimate involved the racial murders of 270 white Californians by members of the Nation of Islam. That would make it far and away the biggest case of serial murder in American history, yet the book was never reissued after its 1979 publication, and is in today's much more pc climate out of print. Most publishers won't touch a book on the Wichita Massacre.

50 posted on 11/11/2002 10:48:08 AM PST by mrustow
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