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Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip
The Observer (U.K.) ^
| 11/10/2002
| Robin McKie
Posted on 11/09/2002 5:59:37 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: freedom9
Good summarizing post!
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:15:54 PM PST
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#3Fan
To: Tribune7
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:27:34 PM PST
by
ALS
To: TLI
This would indicate the earth STOPPED rotating or shifted it's axis of rotation to place that location in a polar orientation. This is describing a PHYSICAL change in the direction and orientation of the rotation of a planet. Does anyone remember a little thing called INERTIA? Inertia is exactly what would cause a crustal displacement if they indeed exist. Every year 260 cubic miles of ice are deposited on Antarctica. All this weight is being concentrated on the axis of the earth's spin. Due to the uneven melting or uneven breaking off of chunks of ice, there will be more weight to one side of the earth's rotation axis. Eventually enough weight will accrue to suddenly fling toward the equator where it naturally wants to go. It takes just the crust with it since the crust sits on a liquid mantle and therefore can slide. The enertia of the earth's interior does not change, since it is only the crust that moves. It's like spinning a plate on a stick...get the plate a little off-center from the stick and it'll fling off the stick.
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11/09/2002 9:29:05 PM PST
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#3Fan
To: TLI
This would indicate the earth STOPPED rotating or shifted it's axis of rotation to place that location in a polar orientation. This is describing a PHYSICAL change in the direction and orientation of the rotation of a planet. Does anyone remember a little thing called INERTIA? Such a change, even spread out over a matter of days would destruct this planet to the very core, not just create a "phenomena" that they used to set in the quarter where they now rise, and used to rise where they now set , it would have the effect of a planetary paper shredder... right to the core and then some. I make no claims as to whether the earth has "flipped" or not. I will point out that the earth is essentially a gyroscope. Gyroscopes are interesting things. We used them when I was on the subs. By orienting them along 3 axis you can maintained a stable platform. Along with accelerometers, you can calculate where you are based on measuring the acceleration effects along those 3 axis. But occasionally a gyro will "flip" (which is why you always have at least 2 intertial platforms, because when a gyro "flips" the platform will "crash".)
In any case, I think the earth could conceivably "flip" - no inertia is lost, the earth continues to spin quite happily. However, the atmosphere will not flip with the earth, so fairly quickly you will have some high relative wind velocities. Possibly very high. In which case, you want to be able to have a nice hole in the ground to crawl into for a while.
Here is a link on some basic gyro effects and simple gyro math: THE GYROSCOPE
To: ex-Texan
In addition to the pole flipper we also have to deal with this: Big Super V Coming Soon About 2007 or so .... A super-volcano in Yellowstone could ruin our whole day.
We'd have a better seat for the supernova explosion of Eta Carinae -- that would only fry the southern hemisphere with gamma rays, leaving those of us in North America relatively untouched.
![](http://oposite.stsci.edu/pubinfo/pr/96/23/A.jpg)
Eta Carinae is one of the largest stars in our galaxy -- and one of the most unstable. It's also situated 8000 light years from us, "just down the street" in galactic terms.
It already puts out more than five million times the energy our Sun does. When it finally blows, it will for a time produce more energy than all the other stars in the galaxy combined. And we have a front row seat. Be sure to wear your 10,000,000 SPF sunscreen.
When will it go off? No way to tell, it's extremely unstable and unpredictable. But it has been growing strongly in intensity over the past ten years. If it keeps up, it'll be the second brightest star in the sky in just a few more years (right now it's quite dim in the sky due to its distance). The last time this happened (1841) it threw off a huge blast of matter that formed the "dumbbell" shaped nebula you see in the Hubbel photo above.
To give you an idea of the scale of that blast, the smallest features visible in that photo are each about the size of our entire solar system.
But there's no guarantee it'll only sputter this time. All we know is that it's definitely ramping up for another "event".
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11/09/2002 9:30:38 PM PST
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Dan Day
To: Dan Day
"...The "or so" indicates that they mean "on average", not that it happens each 250k years like clockwork"That thought crossed my mind, but... this seemed a bit of a stretch, even for "on average".
Let's just say, I'd like to apply similar math to the due date on my mortage payment :-)
To: Pokey78
I guess it's time to stop making fun of stupid people.
To: Pokey78; All
"Sun's rays to roast Earth as poles flip." Can you guys help me out here. I can never understand the rhetoric from the left
Now when a Republican President is voted in does:
A. Mother Earth immediately goes into overdirve to destroy us all?
B. The Evil Republicans Imediately work to destroy the earth by passing legislation that will kill all the wildlife and destroy the air and water?
C. The aura of produced by the sintly god-like benevolent Democrat President (who was voted out or against because of evil Reuplican voter fraud) fade, thus allowing A. to occur?(See A. Above) D. All of the above?
To: Gary Boldwater
It's more like the earth develops several poles (some measurements show as many as 8 poles in the past) during the reversal. It doesn't go away completely.Oh, great. I have a hard enough time with the magnetic compass as it is now, let alone with eight poles...
How did that go, accelerate north, decelerate north-by-northwest..?
To: Pokey78
The Guardian!!! is reporting that there may be another cause for global warming than greenhouse gases and American imperialism?
We really did win the midterm elections.
To: FreedomFarmer
For Sale: Compass
Located in North South Dakota. ROTFLOL!!!
To: lizma
I've got enough SPAM to feed to local comumnity for about 5 years. Since I bought my stash, the price has gone up 50 cents per can. I'm going to hold onto it and make a killing in 2010.
To: spaceman spiff; Skooz
Zap-zap, ping.
To: FreedomFarmer
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
11/09/2002 10:26:05 PM PST
by
Mr. K
To: DaisyCutter
Heh, anyone with a simple understanding of electricity and magnetism could debunk this garbage And anyone with a complex understanding would know they're wrong...
To: Pokey78
E-Ticket Ride Bump, don't forget to bring the sun tan lotion.
To: TLI
What a bunch of IDIOTS! I guess the dramatic effects of weather changes, wind patterns, etc haven't occured to someone as enlightened as yourself.
To: All
2 Pet 3:10 The day of the Lord is surely coming, as unexpectedly as a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the heavenly bodies will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be burned up.
2 Pet 3:11 And so since everything around us is going to melt away, what holy, godly lives we should be living!
2 Pet 3:12 You should look forward to that day and hurry it along--the day when God will set the heavens on fire, and the heavenly bodies will melt and disappear in flames.
2 Pet 3:13 But we are looking forward to God's promise of new heavens and a new earth afterwards, where there will be only goodness.
2 Pet 3:14 Dear friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen and for him to come, try hard to live without sinning; and be at peace with everyone so that he will be pleased with you when he returns.
2 Pet 3:15 And remember why he is waiting. He is giving us time to get his message of salvation out to others. Our wise and beloved brother Paul has talked about these same things in many of his letters.
2 Pet 3:16 Some of his comments are not easy to understand, and there are people who are deliberately stupid, and always demand some unusual interpretation--they have twisted his letters around to mean something quite different from what he meant, just as they do the other parts of the Scripture--and the result is disaster for them.
2 Pet 3:17 I am warning you ahead of time, dear brothers, so that you can watch out and not be carried away by the mistakes of these wicked men, lest you yourselves become mixed up too.
2 Pet 3:18 But grow in spiritual strength and become better acquainted with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be all glory and splendid honor, both now and forevermore. Good-bye. Peter
To: Dan Day
Not only does the position of the north magnetic pole shift over time, it "wobbles" on a daily basis, some days more than others. On a particularly active day, its position will wobble as much as 80 kilomters. I guess this means Sandy Claws is a migratory establishment... Kinda sucks for them elves, having to move the toy factory and everything...
Pookie & ME
To: Pokey78
This is great! Now we can quit worrying about the dreaded "Global Warming". Sounds to me like author has already had his "polarity reversed" one time too many.
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