Democrat Website Shunned July Warning - Banned Dem Prophet!

freerepublic and a certain rat cellar | July 2002 | tlbshow originally

[Billthedrill]

If you manage it, I'll invite him myself from afar. BTW, for anyone who cares, the site isn't really cut off, it's child's play to bore through the first two screens. I won't link it from here out of respect for JimRob, but if anyone wants it FReepmail me and I'll return the URL.

Does anyone but me love the irony of a "progressive" site cutting access to itself off from anyone but the Moneyed Classes? Heh heh...sweet...

[parsifal]

Yeah, I saw Dan Abrahms on network news telling GOP not to appoint ultra conservative judges to the court, but it is OK for them to appoint moderate conservatives. I could not believe the gall and cheek of the little lefty dweeb trying to control stuff from the minority position. parsy,

[Dec31,1999]

The R party has become the old D party because the D party has become the radical Gramcian Maxist party, which the old D as well as the new R party can't agree with, because the GM party is illogical and unreasonable.

[Bogey78O]

I got banned after Heston went public with his Alzeimer's. They were ripping into him as a racist hateful man and I defended Chuck. I think the breaking point was when someone said the NRA was a hate group and I said that was a stupid comparison.

[Cacique]

btt

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

"90% of rangers airborne are liberals?"

ROTFL! No, I am retired from the Airborne Ranger business- I work for private industry now, and real Conservatives are few and far between.

[Cold Heat]

A lot of polite freepers have been banned there for simply pointing out that Clinton is a piece of cr*p crooked liar. (And Bill is, too.) As a dem, I would like to be able to make constructive criticisms about my own party without excommunication. parsy the fool.

Well............I don't think there are too many FReepers that could get by with alot of comments like that about Bush! ,,, (except for murrymom!) LOL!

Rational arguement is allowed(except during election season which I am in hearty aggreement with) as long as it is logical and decent.

DU is almost X-rated by comparison. Our Smokey Backroom is tame compared to the (expletive deleted) stuff on their front page.

They remind me of a bunch of unruley teenagers.

[shadowman99]

This person nails it. In fact, I see some of what he or she writes about here on FR. It is easy and lazy to name call, and it happens a lot on this site. I'm guilty of it myself sometimes. Everone needs to vent, but it is important to set aside the rhetoric and "demorats" and actually take a good hard look at ideology. Why do we think the things we think? Why are we not better at making our point of view understood? Why are we so commonly thought of as haters and racists? How much of this are WE responsible for?

This person laid it on the line and was banned from DUh. They couldn't deal with any soul searching. Can we? Can our party? If not, isn't it just a matter of time before we hand Washington back over to them?

I lurk on DUh and have an alias. I don't post because they'll spot me in a minute. I don't think I would do too well acting like a faux liberal. What I read there is often times irrational and hateful. Many of the people on that site HATE us. Hate. Why? For the most part we want to solve the same problems in society, but have different approaches. and then on some issues there is a chasm with no middle ground. Abortion has no middle ground. Capital punishment has no middle ground.

And then they have the tin foil hate people. Many of them think Bush is the same monster that we see Clinton. They really think Bush dusted Wellstone. We really think Clinton and Co. took out of Ron Brown.

Are we doomed to repeat the mistakes that cost the Democrats power last Tuesday? Do we know how to use the power we gained on Tuesday?

In all honesty, there are people who call Rush and sound like they couldn't hold an argument with a democrat because they would run out of Rush's talking points. How many people here really understand what it means to be conservative?

Will I be banned for asking these questions? I don't think I will. At least that's one think I'm confident we have of the hardliners at Underground.

Frankly, I think if would be interesting to have the debate that khangaskhan was looking for. I hope that person eventually finds his or her way over here. I hope that we would treat khangaskhan with more respect than DUh.

[parsifal]

I loved the "Achtung! Ist Verboten!" announcement from the *U mgt.:

For the last 21 months, we have tried very hard to keep this discussion board open to all left-wing points of view. It was one of our guiding principles, because we believed deeply that talking is better than not talking.

But now we have come to the conclusion that the current state of affairs is untenable. In the past few months I have become convinced of two things:

1) There is a small but outspoken group of liberals who simply are not our friends. Please be aware that I am not singling out Greens, most of whom are capable of participating on this message board in a productive and thought-provoking way. Rather, I am referring to people who are consumed with hatred and contempt for any and all liberals who don't share their exact point of view.

2) It is simple to disrupt this message board, and post the most vile and offensive propaganda if you simply declare yourself to be a liberal, Green, or even a Democrat. Some of the things posted by our "fellow liberals" would make a FReeper blush. In fact, some of these "fellow liberals" might even be FReepers. If they are, they've found a rich vein for disruption, because I let them get away with it. Well, no more.

Over time, the result has been an increase in postings by rude, anti-social disruptors, and a decrease in postings by thoughtful, productive members.

In case you haven't heard, there is a very important election occurring in less than three weeks. The stakes in this election are as high as they have ever been. You are being given a clear choice: Hand over complete control of all three branches of government to the forces of evil - or don't.

There is no viable third option. Choosing not to vote (or to vote for a third party) is a morally bankrupt decision during this time of crisis when the potential harm to our country is so great. You may claim you are standing on principle, but simply calling it "principled" does not make it so. Your stand on principle will have dire consequences, and you will share the blame when the Republicans in the House, Senate, White House, and Federal Courts undo a half century of progress.

As the administrator of this message board, I have the opportunity to have an impact on the outcome of this election. As an American, I have a moral obligation to do what I can to stop the conservative juggernaut. For the next three weeks, that is my greatest concern.

We still allow all points of view, but we have our limits.

For the next three weeks:

It is forbidden to use the DU message board in an effort to make our members withhold their precious votes from the Democratic Party, which is the only organization capable of stopping the Republican onslaught.

It is forbidden to use the DU message board to organize protests or other actions against members of the Democratic Party.

If the administrators of DU decide that the rhetoric of your posts would be more appropriate on Free Republic than on DU, then you are going to get banned.

We understand that many of you feel deeply disappointed with certain members of the Democratic Party right now. We wish to make clear that you are still free to criticize the Democratic Party, the Democratic leadership, or individual members of the Democratic Party.

But the stakes are too high to let DU argue its way to Armageddon. The stakes are too high to let a few angry partisans with dubious intentions hijack this message board.

I know what side I am on. If you are rooting against the Democratic Party in this election, then just let me know by posting in this thread and I will shut off your account myself.

To repeat: these changes are in effect until the election is over. At that point, we will review whether it is in the best interests of DU to remove these restrictions.

Thank you for your understanding.

Skinner

(I guess it is OK to be a thought-Nazi if you are a Dem. They must be good nazis and us right-wingers are bad nazis?-parsy)

[San Jacinto]

That tlbshow,...er..I mean khangaskham can sure write a mean letter.

khangaskham...what is that?...Some kind of take-off on Gengis Kahn?

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

They're out of touch with the mainstream...

They are also out of touch with three-quarters of the people who pull that D lever as a conditioned response. I hope they don't wake up for a long time as the nuttier they get the more of those people conditioned to pull that D lever wake up.

[Cultural Jihad]

The Democratic roots are to support failed programs. It doesn't matter to them that the cure is worse than the disease. Ideology's fatal warcry is: "We must do something, anything!" To them, all that matters is feeling good about themselves. They are no better than the suburbanite who stops to hold her nose with one hand while handing over a dollar with the other to the professional bum about to drink himself to death, and walks away thinking: "I did good. I feel good. I am a good person." Charity is not measured by how good a giver feels about herself. Rather, it is measured in how much good the giving actually does. A person has to do the hard work to decide who really deserves charity.

IMHO, the Democratic roots have become little more than cronyism and the taxpayer-sponsored employment programs for their friends and relatives.

[parsifal]

I think so. Either that or it should have been "kansas-khan" and the dude couldn't spell. Who knows? parsy.

[Cold Heat]

For the most part we want to solve the same problems in society, but have different approaches

I think there is no longer a different approach to the same problem. What it now has morphed into is a genuine hatred! No longer is their a alternative answer, no longer is their real debate.

What there is now is obstruction, name calling, and general warfare!

They have totally lost it and are no fun to argue with anymore. They don't have a identity. It is just opposition without any other purpose. Thanks to Tommy Dasshole!

[Cultural Jihad]

... undo a half century of progress.

Progressives?! What a nonsense word! Cancer and dementia are said to be 'progressive' at times.

[parsifal]

How true. I am watching a re-run of Tony Snow / Gebhardt interview and Little Dickie is saying dems need to come up with some good long term ideas. Gee, isn't that what Coulter said? Dickie is admitting that dems don't have any current ideas. Confusing. Wierd. parsy.

[chuckles]

Liberal thought process.......

1. Killing people = BAD!

2. Guns kill people

3. Guns= BAD!

Now when he gets his philosophy planted, there is no turning back. He fails to recognise that he will have to ban knives, baseball bats, fertilizer, bows and arrows, etc. He will worry about that when he bans guns. This is why they can't win arguments,... because they are so wrong, any thinking person can show the stupidity of their arguement. They are programed to think and say that they are intelectual, and conservatives are bumpkins. This is why the age old argument on inteligent design and evolution is a liberal one. ID people give challenges, and the evoloutionist calls them a name. When ID people come back with a Nobel Prize winning scientist writings on ID, they pooh pooh it, because he can't be a REAL scientist unless he is an evolutionist.

Ergo evolutionist= liberal!

[Cultural Jihad]

A BTTT for truth.

[Tribune7]

The Dems apparently banned khangaskhan for his/her heresies.

Wow. Those people really are hopeless. I suspect khanga would pretty much be able to stick around here.

[webber]

"It looks like he may turn from the dark side yet.....

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH HIM