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Yemeni-American killed by airstrike linked to Buffalo cell, U.S. says
Associated Press ^ | 11-8-02 | JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Posted on 11/08/2002 3:25:53 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:41:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Travis McGee
Federal courts in the 1940's denaturalized a lot of German Nazis, holding that their oaths of loyalty to the U.S. had been fraudulent. The Supreme Court in 1943 or so required a standard of clear and convincing evidence of the fraud in a similar case involving a Communist (the Communist won the case because the Supreme Court held that standard had not been met.) But, with that condition, those cases remain good law, as far as I know.
21 posted on 11/08/2002 4:34:35 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Great history lesson; I love this place!
22 posted on 11/08/2002 4:37:16 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
The 1943 Supreme Court case is SCHNEIDERMAN v. UNITED STATES, 320 U.S. 118 (1943).
23 posted on 11/08/2002 4:50:46 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The apparent killing of a U.S. citizen, even an alleged terrorist killed collaterally, threatens to draw the CIA into murky waters.

Frankly, I'm glad we broke that taboo in an accidental and convenient manner.

24 posted on 11/08/2002 4:52:12 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
Collateral damage.
25 posted on 11/08/2002 5:18:53 PM PST by Nogbad
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To: Travis McGee
Isn't it amazing how the left-wing media manages to get their little digs in. The story should have been written as fact, without the formulated pleas from the Anti-American groups.
26 posted on 11/08/2002 6:36:44 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
The good news is that they are only further marginalizing themselves.
27 posted on 11/08/2002 9:21:05 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: aristeides
Thanks again!
28 posted on 11/08/2002 9:21:24 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The apparent killing of a U.S. citizen, even an alleged terrorist killed collaterally, threatens to draw the CIA into murky waters.

I have solved this dilemma for myself by acquiring my own drone, which I employ to worry about this. It sits by the side of my desk, hooked into the CIA's drone via subspace radio. Just before the Preditor shoots the Hellfire at some terrorists, my drone worries that there might be an American citizen in there with them.

That way, I don't have to spend any time on it.


29 posted on 11/08/2002 9:27:57 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: Vigilanteman
Murky waters...the CIA? Oh please...Al Qaida is the Murky Waters. They attack and kill civilians without cause. They wear no uniform. They practice no military discipline. They are at war, and they even say that in interviews.

The CIA is simply reshuffling the deck. If you are Al Qaida, you need to watch your backside everytime you get into a car. You have to forget about all former members of your family. You cannot have a regular lifestyle or stable family situation. You cannot count on living a long life. You must forever live in the Murky Waters....a place where nothing grows or prospers.
30 posted on 11/08/2002 9:33:39 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
An Amnesty International spokesman in Washington said Thursday that the U.S. attack violates international treaties prohibiting summary executions done without the due process of law.

About 28 Japanese aircraft were shot down at Pearl Harbor. I wonder if these scum sucking dirt bags would say the Japanese pilots should have gotten due process of law before being shot down for attacking Pearl Harbor?

31 posted on 11/08/2002 9:48:03 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; AmericanInTokyo; Ranger; lostlegend; Mitchell; aristeides; swarthyguy
Only one of the men, Sahim Alwan, 29, was granted bail. He is awaiting release on $600,000.

I heard to-night that he has been released.

Question: Who paid $600,000 bail??

32 posted on 11/08/2002 10:44:58 PM PST by Nogbad
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To: swarthyguy
Ping
33 posted on 11/08/2002 11:00:10 PM PST by Nogbad
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Who paid $600,000 bail??

Isn't that normally a matter of court record? Of course, one could hide the source, but I thought that one was required to give some explanation of the source of bail funds. I'm not sure, though; maybe I'm wrong about that.

If he found a willing bailbondsman and paid just 10% himself, it isn't even that much money, all things considered. A lot of people could come up with $60,000 if they needed it to get out of jail.

34 posted on 11/08/2002 11:04:06 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Nogbad
Thanks. Who bailed that guy? Should look into some Saudi front foundation that'd feed the money into mosques and fundraising drives.
35 posted on 11/08/2002 11:05:17 PM PST by swarthyguy
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The Boston Globe OnlineBoston.com
Boston Globe Online / Nation | World

CIA STRIKER

Slain citizen linked to cell

This same AP story ran on page A11 of the Boston Globe on 11/9/2002 [link].  Note the headline selected by the BG...

36 posted on 11/09/2002 2:56:55 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Mitchell
If he found a willing bailbondsman and paid just 10% himself, it isn't even that much money, all things considered. A lot of people could come up with $60,000 if they needed it to get out of jail.

What are the chances he skips bail?

37 posted on 11/09/2002 9:39:34 AM PST by Mark17
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What are the chances he skips bail?

I think I saw a report that he has a monitoring system on him, so skipping bail may not be so easy.

38 posted on 11/10/2002 10:23:24 AM PST by Mitchell
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