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1 posted on 11/08/2002 10:53:41 AM PST by Constitution Day
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2 posted on 11/08/2002 10:54:57 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Excellent!

I'm guessing that much fun was had at Tirnanog??!?!?!?!??

5 posted on 11/08/2002 11:02:25 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Constitution Day
Just heard the same thing on the local news. We win again!
6 posted on 11/08/2002 11:03:51 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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Here's the News & Observer article on the subject (actually an Associated Press wire story; N&O reporters probably have tears in their eyes and can't type now):

GOP could have control of state House

By GARY D. ROBERTSON, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Republicans apparently gained the edge today in controlling the state House after a recount in Wayne County showed Majority Leader Phil Baddour now trailing in his race.

Baddour, D-Wayne, had an 896-vote lead over Republican Louis Pate after Tuesday's ballots were first counted in their House District 11 race. But Wayne County elections officials discovered a glitch in the voting, and a preliminary recount ending today morning gave Pate a 164-vote lead, county elections chairman Geoff Hulse said.

The House had appeared to be split 60-60 for the next legislative session, but now Republicans could have a 61-59 advantage should the leading candidates in three other close races end up as winners.

A software problem prompted county election officials to retabulate Tuesday's results late Thursday and early today. Hulse said it's likely Baddour or Pate will seek a hand recount, which would be held late next week.

"We feel like that the only certain way to put it to bed is by doing a hand-eye recount," Hulse said.

With Pate's lead, vote totals now show Democrats and Republicans each winning 58 House seats. The GOP leads two other races by narrow margins while a Democrat leads in a third close race.

Democrats have a 62-58 advantage in the House, which may have to return as early as next week to decide whether to override Gov. Mike Easley's first veto.

All 100 counties were reviewing their vote totals today and presenting results to the State Board of Elections. Based on those totals, candidates will have until noon Tuesday to seek a formal recount.

Hulse said voting observers from both parties alerted elections officials after noticing that the number of votes in the U.S. Senate race was lower than the total number of ballots cast.

Elections officials determined that voting machines hadn't counted straight-party ballots, Hulse said. The machines were reprogrammed and the machines counted the ballots again, he said.

The retabulated results show Pate, the mayor of Mount Olive, with 8,503 votes and Baddour with 8,339 votes. Before today, Baddour had 6,058 votes compared to Pate with 5,162 votes.

"It looked like there were a thousand more straight-party Republican voters than there were Democrats," Hulse said.

The straight-party ballot problems didn't affect other legislative races but may affect the margin in the Court of Appeals race between Bill Constangy and Martha Geer.

Baddour, 60, won his first election in 1992, lost to Pate in 1994, then defeated Pate in 1996.

Other state House races that were too close to call after final, unofficial results were Wednesday include:

the District 3 race, where GOP Michael Gorman led Democratic Rep. Alice Underhill by 172 votes;

the District 17 race, where Republican Bonner Stiller led Democratic Rep. David Redwine by 158 votes;

the District 63 race, where Democrat Alice Bordsen led the GOP's Bob Sharpe by 100 votes.

The margins in these races could change after today's vote canvassing by the counties.

7 posted on 11/08/2002 11:11:07 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina
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This is huge. Remember, one of the first things on the General Assembly's plate is redistricting; the court-ordered districts which made the GOP competitive applied to the 2002 races only. It'll be interesting to see if there's any redistricting mischief during the lame duck session.
11 posted on 11/08/2002 11:16:32 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina
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FYI...
12 posted on 11/08/2002 11:16:53 AM PST by Constitution Day
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BIG news, guys!
13 posted on 11/08/2002 11:17:37 AM PST by Constitution Day
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Have the lefties wet enough beds and cried enough tears to flood Chapel Hill yet?
21 posted on 11/08/2002 11:57:09 AM PST by putupon
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Congratulations.
23 posted on 11/08/2002 12:09:40 PM PST by blam
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This may have some effect on whether John Edwards runs for Prez. As I understand it, NC law does not permit Edwards to simultaneously run for re-election and president. He'll have to choose on or the other. I doubt a GOP House will be changing the laws for his benefit.
24 posted on 11/08/2002 12:10:05 PM PST by ambrose
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Let the RATS try their garbage when we redistrict this Spring. We have the House. We are 6 to 1 on the Supreme Court. We are competitive in the Senate.

Let's lock this victory down and go get Edwards.

Windom

25 posted on 11/08/2002 12:10:22 PM PST by Windom Earle
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OK, so another inducement (at least for a visit :-).
41 posted on 11/08/2002 12:42:36 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Constitution Day
WOOT! What a great day!
44 posted on 11/08/2002 12:55:56 PM PST by sadamico
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Election Day 2002 is the gift that keeps on giving.

Now, if only we could have a little luck here in Indiana.
47 posted on 11/08/2002 1:00:26 PM PST by Samwise
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The software problem caused vote counting machines to ignore most straight party tickets

That's why I vote Republican on each race instead of voting straight party. I've heard of too many problems with counting straight tickets, especially REPUBLICAN straight tickets.

48 posted on 11/08/2002 1:01:51 PM PST by ncweaver
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This rocks! WTG NC!

Down here in GA, we think we're going to have enough aisle-crossers to control the State Senate.
55 posted on 11/08/2002 1:52:20 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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As most Southern FReepers know, one of our great frustrations is that the move to Republican voting down-ballot has been so agonizingly s l o w. We've been voting GOP at the Presidential level pretty dependably down here for decades, and we've had a lot of success at the U.S. Senate and Congress levels too, because the case can be made that a vote for a Democrat Senator, for example, is a vote for Daschle as Majority Leader, or for Hillary or Teddy as a Committee Chair.

But State House, State Senate, and Council of State races have, for the most part, been something else entirely. A sort of circular logic has been at work, and it's hard to break the cycle. You know, "I'm a conservative, but the Dems control the State House, so if I don't vote for them, I won't have any influence." In other words, people vote for Dems because they're in control, and the Dems are in control because people vote for them. Once that absurd loop is broken, however, there's a good chance it'll stay broken. The majority of Southerners are conservative by most reasonable definitions, and as it becomes clear that a vote for a Republican isn't wasted, the momentum will pick up.

57 posted on 11/08/2002 2:24:06 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina
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It just keeps getting better!
58 posted on 11/08/2002 2:26:26 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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Let "the Republicans stole the election again" whining from the left to begin.
62 posted on 11/08/2002 2:54:56 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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The software problem caused vote counting machines to ignore most straight party tickets.

This is why I NEVER vote straight party, even if I vote for every R. I don't trust that my vote is counted.

63 posted on 11/08/2002 3:00:43 PM PST by copycat
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