Fort Myers police chief targets guns (Why Not Go After Criminals & Leave Citizens Alone?)

The News Press ^ | November 6, 2002 | SHARON TURCO, sturco@news-press.com

[Truth Telling Guy]

Fort Myers Police Chief Hilton Daniels is tired of the killings and plans to take guns off city streets as the first step in stopping them.

He pledged Tuesday to make prevention of gun violence the agency's top priority.

[Mini-14]

Call the tip hotline to let the police know that the police chief was seen carrying a gun. Then call the tip hotline to let the police know that a patrol officer was seen carrying a gun.

[sarasmom]

Why do I need a government issued permit to own a gun?

Why do SOME LEOs in Florida need to know if I carry or own a standard projectile weapon? I have never been convicted, or even accused of, any crime.

At one time, long ago, I had a rather extensive arsenal.I "collected" guns.I also travelled outside of the USA, courtesy of government orders, and had these weapons listed on my official travel orders as "government approved personal property".I understood the need for this, when moving to a foreign country.It was still a bit of a hassle to explain to the foreign customs agent that I was "ordered" to bring my little collection of weapons to their country,legally, and had official "papers" to prove it.

Outside of my own country, I had no problem in complying with another country's weapons laws.

Inside the USA, it is my right(2nd ammendment) to Keep and Bear Arms.I do not need a permit for this right.It is not a privilege.It is a right.Many generations of my family fought for this right.I spent a few years in service myself to protect and defend this, and many other USA citizen rights.

What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

In truth, the paranoid Ft. Meyers LEO should be much more alarmed about my knowlege of the various applications of distilled rattlesnake venom.I am sure he/she probably has an ulcer...a casual scratch...LOL ;>)

[apillar]

“If parents are suspicious that their child has a gun, they need to follow up and go into their rooms and check,” Shoemaker said.

I KNOW my child has a gun, I bought it for him last Christmas, taught him how to use it too.

[FreedomPoster]

My child doesn't have his own (yet), but can darn sure hit with mine. Went to the range Saturday, and he's got "gun control" reasonably well figured out. The two of us danced a bowling pin right up the range.

[dcwusmc]

What exactly is an illegal gun and how do you tell the difference? Is there a registry somewhere? I sure hope not!

[demosthenes the elder]

good for you!

[donmeaker]

I am sure you noted the fatal word "and" in the Florida state constitution you quoted. You can carry in defense of self AND proper authority, but not for just yourself, or just for the state.



That would disarm most folks. I tell ya, ya gotta amend that darn thing, it should be "or", don't you agree?

It would also allow laws to disarm police officers while in their police stations, and while off duty and not under threat.

[demosthenes the elder]

good for you, too!
I think all gunners should actively indoctrinate the coming generations in the mysteries of the gun culture, the better to ensure the survival of the 2nd Amendment

[Bonaparte]

"...Police Chief Hilton Daniels..."

That's their whole mistake right there. They need to hire Chief Fletcher Daniels. He likes firearms.

[Truth Telling Guy]

You'd be surprised how many liberal males and even females quickly learn to love and respect firearms once you can get them to try going shooting or hunting with you. And they soon change their ideas about firearms rights once they do.

[Truth Telling Guy]

Chief Hilton Daniels is probably the kind of guy who'd love to kick in some doors to look for guns
as long as his men were going in first.
If you know what I mean.

[Truth Telling Guy]

I KNOW my child has a gun, I bought it for him last Christmas, taught him how to use it too.
apillar

My kind of guy!

A Daddy who really loves his kids!

[Truth Telling Guy]

"Anything to stop the killing," she said.

Chaining everyone to the wall would stop the killing. Doesn't offer much in the way of civil liberties, but she's for it, since it stops the killing.

/john

Just give them time...

[demosthenes the elder]

I *wouldn't* be surprised.
From my direct experience, approximately 19 out of every 20 ardent antigunners (who have never shot) turn into moderate to ardent pro-gunners after I take them to the range.

[c-b 1]

Please help me understand this, the only homicides anyone in the article seems concerned with are the ones committed with guns, why are the others irrelevant, are the those victims less dead?

If they have a murder problem wouldn't it make sense to get murderers off the street, I didn't see that mentioned anywhere.

Maybe I do understand, these people are descendants of Druids, who believe "Evil Spirits," reside in guns.

[Truth Telling Guy]

If they(the crooked politicians and gungrabbers) take the murderers off the streets then they can't commit the murders that can be used as an excuse to take more of your rights away---especially your gun rights.

[Truth Telling Guy]

A friend of mine took his anti-gun girlfriend to his fathers farm and let her shoot a shotgun, rifle and a pistol at some cups and jugs and stuff and she loved it.

She had argued with us tell she was blue in the face mad only weeks before about how important gun control is.

Now she wants him to get her a 38 or a 22 rifle.

[Truth Telling Guy]

Check out this stupid article and asks yourself what one of these punk kids will do if he comes home and a couple guys are raping his mom?
He's just gonna' peacefully talk it out with them?

Gun violence spurs students to act
By JILL PALERMO
DAILY NEWS STAFF
They say they don’t worry about guns at school — or anywhere else.



But in a town where plenty of people hunt and even more wear military uniforms, they know some kids have access to guns.



And that’s why the Jacksonville High School Student Council got involved in a nationwide pledge against gun violence.



“We all know there’s a possibility someone could have a gun,” said Jessica Bucklew, a 17-year-old senior.



“But it’s remote,” added William Gerichten, also a senior.



“I think it’s not even a threat,” said Ben McGlaughon, 17.



“But if you know there’s something being done about it, it makes you feel better.”



JHS is one of several Onslow County middle and high schools collecting signatures for “The Student Pledge Against Gun Violence.”



By signing the one-page pledge, students make this promise: “I will never bring a gun to school. I will never use a gun to settle a dispute. I will use my influence with my friends to keep them from using guns to settle disputes.”



Nearly 3,000 Onslow students have signed the pledge, and the number is rising, said Anna Morgan, a Navy mom spearheading the local effort. She hopes to collect at least 5,000 signatures to contribute to the nationwide goal of 6 million.



Mary Lewis Grow, a Minnesota mother and anti-violence activist, developed the pledge five years ago. Morgan said she became interested when she read an article about Grow and the pledge in a national magazine.



Morgan says she’s not the typical anti-gun type. She and her husband, a Navy corpsman, own guns but keep them locked up and away from their two small children.



The pledge, Morgan said, is not against guns. It’s about empowering kids to take control of a problem affecting their generation.



“I just like the idea of somebody having enough faith in the kids of today to let them have the power to control something in their own lives,” she said.



Are guns a problem in Onslow County Schools?



Assistant Principal Darin Cloninger said JHS has had no gun-related incidents this year.



But having a gun turn up at a local school is not unheard of. According to the 2000-01 Annual Report on School Violence, the most recent available, Onslow County Schools reported two incidents involving possession of a firearm on campus.



After Morgan contacted JHS about the pledge, Cloninger offered the idea to the student council, who ran with it.



“In high schools, you hear all the horror stories,” he said. “But we really have a lot of concerned and conscientious students Â… who want to do the right thing.”



According to statistics compiled by Grow’s organization, 30,000 people die nationwide as a result of gun violence a year, and about 4,000 of them are under the age of 19.



Since 1998, organizers have declared a “Day of National Concern about Young People and Violence” to draw attention to the pledge.



This year, that day was Oct. 24 — the same day Maryland police arrested the D.C. snipers.



“The fact that one of the snipers ended up being a 17-year-old should make kids think about it a little more,” McGlaughon said. “It’s not older white men who are doing this kind of serial killing. It’s kids, too.”



Contact Jill Palermo at jpalermo @jdnews.com or at 353-1171,ext. 228.

[Travis McGee]

Why didn't we think of that? All we need to do is get folks to sign a pledge not to use guns to settle their disagreements, or to bring them to school!

If only Harris and Klebold had signed such a pledge, I am sure Columbine would not have happened. That pledge would have stopped them cold, they would never have gone on a murder rampage if it meant viloating their pledge.

(The naivete of liberals never ceases to amaze.)

[Squantos]

Paper Laws don't stop criminals with or without guns......Armed "by choice" citizens are the single solution IMO.........as for every criminal with a firearm there should be 100 armed law abidding citizens within range of them when they decide to committ an atrocity against a peaceful populace.

Stay Safe TM !!