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To: Technogeeb

Your unfounded personal attacks are self-evidently erroneous.

The very fact that you now see the need for such a law shows that my objections to the proposed system, far from being "tin-foil-hat delusion", are quite accurate. If they were really "dishonest", then it is that same dishonesty with which you are now agreeing.

On that one item you have shown that dishonesty knows no bounds. That is but one of several statements you put forth that has been stricken from the record of your accumulated degree of dishonesty over several posts. So it came down a bit. The accumulation is much more than just that one need for a law that prohibits the HHS from putting out a dishonest poverty level number. Which it wasn't until I mentioned a the possibility that it entered your thinking that a law could thwart that possibility. If I'm wrong and you did think of it earlier but chose not to mention it probably because to mention it would thwart your agenda -- which I have no doubt you have not honestly stated.

Zon: You demonstrated your intent to deceive the reader. Thus rendering yourself not to be trusted or respected because you disrespect the reader. You probably think you can mislead and try to deceive the reader and that they should just comply with you and answer your questions or take you seriously. You deserve no person's attention in a discussion. Scorn. That's what you deserve. 936

Technogeeb: Your lies and personal attacks do nothing to refute the clear flaws in the system you are advocating. Government handouts to every household in the United States (the "prebate" mechanism) is socialism. To claim that it is otherwise is a lie. And since that system allows an unelected bureaucrat to determine the value of those handouts (with no additional action by Congress once the system is enacted), the only thing preventing it from becoming pure communism is the goodwill of the bureaucrats. 939

Your comments are on record; I'm glad to let the reader juxtaposition our comments.

965 posted on 11/11/2002 6:23:58 PM PST by Zon
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To: Zon
On that one item you have shown that dishonesty knows no bounds. That is but one of several statements you put forth that has been stricken from the record of your accumulated degree of dishonesty over several posts

If I had really made any false statements, you would have been gleefully reposting them as you are my (accurate, but which you still pretend is false) statement about the ability of the bureaucracy to use the proposed legislation as an instrument to implement communism. But since you fail to post such supposedly "false" statement (and now admit that the flaw you so long insisted didn't exist is indeed a flaw), you are left with nothing but personal attacks. Unlike my honesty, you really have posted lies. Even ignoring the lies you have posted about me, you have posted lies where you insist that the HHS is an "honest" department. And when those lies are disproven, you insist that they were merely "errors" while continuing to use them and other invalid personal attacks.

The accumulation is much more than just that one need for a law that prohibits the HHS from putting out a dishonest poverty level number. Which it wasn't until I mentioned a the possibility that it entered your thinking that a law could thwart that possibility

I already proposed a solution to that issue (elimination of the "prebate" in favor of making some items tax exempt). There are dozens of other potential solutions. But before I could propose a solution, I had to make you realize that the problem really did exist, something that you refused to do because of your stupid blind faith in government (i.e., that the HHS would be "honest" when it is well kwown that they have been anything but honest in determining the value of the poverty level).

If I'm wrong and you did think of it earlier but chose not to mention it probably because to mention it would thwart your agenda

Proposing a solution to the flaw would have been futile until you realized that the flaw existed. My "agenda" is simply to resist the implementation of a tax code that is even more socialistic than the current abomination.

which I have no doubt you have not honestly stated

That's because you are being foolish. By believing that anyone who simply points out flaws in your system is intent on destroying the underlying principles of that system, you will alienate much of the support which would otherwise flock to your cause. When someone points out flaws in your system, rather than simply correcting them to create an even superior system you instead assume that the person pointing out the flaws is an "enemy". Your simplistic, one-dimensional thinking is a greater threat to the cause of a NRST replacement to the income tax than the chimera of enemies you perceive.
971 posted on 11/11/2002 7:03:18 PM PST by Technogeeb
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