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Whats going on in S.D.?
11/6/02 | TJC

Posted on 11/06/2002 1:23:35 PM PST by TJC

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To: mlo
Wrong. The recount IS automatic if the difference is less than 1/4th of 1%, which it is. The state does it and pays for it, with no action required by the candidate.

That answers the next post after yours, as well. Thune is not "required to choose" among his remedies. He can let the recount proceed by doing nothing, and then sue depending on whether the recount process corrects the election. So he CAN have it both ways, which based on his statement released today is exactly what he is doing.

Billybob

61 posted on 11/06/2002 3:00:23 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Gophack
If Tommy retires, Thune would be the heavy favorite to replace him. But, if Tommy sticks around, Thune would be the definite underdog in that race and there really aren't any other offices in South Dakota for him to pursue.

If he ultimately loses this, chances are his political career in the state of SD will have to be put on hold for at least six more years.

62 posted on 11/06/2002 3:06:11 PM PST by comebacknewt
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To: comebacknewt
Here's what I make of Thune's press release. He is saying "Let's follow the normal process." No one can object to that. He leaves open the possibility of taking off the gloves if fraud is revealed and is not corrected in S.D. by S.D. officials.

He is giving the other side nothing to attack him on, at this time. He may have felt like a vitriolic outburst, but he kept himself in check -- the exact opposite of Nixon's outburst when he lost the race for Governor of California in 1960, "You won't have Richard Nixon to kick around any more."

Either Thune's a sharp cookie, or he has excellent advisors, or probably both. He's playing this electoral violin exactly right.

Congressman Billybob

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63 posted on 11/06/2002 3:06:50 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Gophack
"maybe it would be wide for Thune to take the moral high ground ..."

Its not moral to give up in the face of fraud. Its not moral to through away all of the hard work of your supporters without fighting doggedly, especially when there is already evidence of probable fraud through the FBI investigation. He should demand a full recount and be prepared to file suit.

64 posted on 11/06/2002 3:09:00 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29
wide = wise
65 posted on 11/06/2002 3:11:36 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Congressman Billybob
Despite what you state as options, do you think Trent Lott would ever lead an effort to seat Thune in lieu of Johnson?
66 posted on 11/06/2002 3:14:10 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Congressman Billybob
Wrong. The recount IS automatic if the difference is less than 1/4th of 1%, which it is.

"South Dakota Statutes 12-21-12. Candidate's petition for recount in close state or district election -- Notice to county auditors. If any candidate for an office, position, or nomination other than the Legislature is voted upon in more than one county, and has been defeated according to the official returns by a margin which does not exceed one-fourth of one percent of the total vote cast for all candidates for such office, position, or nomination, the candidate may within three days after completion of the official canvass by the State Board of Canvassers file a petition with the secretary of state setting forth that the candidate believes a recount will change the result and that all of the votes cast for the office, position, or nomination should be recounted. The secretary of state shall, by registered or certified mail, notify each county auditor that has precincts included in the petition. Each county auditor shall then conduct a recount."

That answers the next post after yours, as well. Thune is not "required to choose" among his remedies.

As already indicated, I have no disagreement with that.

67 posted on 11/06/2002 3:14:58 PM PST by mlo
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To: comebacknewt
She could've made a mistake -- but I'm sure she said "South Dakota" -- not "Alabama".

Interesting -- arrest in SD for Voter Fraud. Wonder what re-canvassing will turn up?

68 posted on 11/06/2002 4:39:58 PM PST by alethia
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks again, Congressman Billybob.

What do you think John Thune is trying to discover with the recanvassing? Is he buying time until more fraud is brought into the light -- or is there something he knows will be discovered? There seems to be something very interesting going on there -- and not a whole lot of media coverage. I'd be very interested in your take...

69 posted on 11/06/2002 4:44:54 PM PST by alethia
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To: no dems
Thune should sue the crap out of them.
70 posted on 11/06/2002 4:46:12 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Mensch
"Doing the noble thing means nothing to fanatics. It makes them laugh, they see it as weakness."

Kinda sounds like the Taliban -- and fundamentalist Islamic "groups" -- doncha think?

71 posted on 11/06/2002 4:46:23 PM PST by alethia
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To: mlo
No, my point is that there is an automatic recount from what I've heard, and no request is necessary. Thus, it would seem that Thune can choose the legal challenge, knowing that the recount is going to happen, regardless.

How can he be denied the recount, given that it's automatic? That makes no sense to me.

72 posted on 11/06/2002 4:51:48 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
Saw mlo's subsequent post, so whoever I saw that the recount was automatic had it wrong, apparently.
73 posted on 11/06/2002 4:57:04 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: Congressman Billybob
There's a way to avoid the "anti-Indian" backlash. A FReeper pointed out on another thread that there's a "Caucasion" county with about a 2,000 pro-Democrat fraud present on the face of it. The county is 1/2 Republican registered, was carried easily by Thune as a Congressman and Bush as a President, yet the 2002 reports claim that only 1/4th of the Republicans and none of the Democrats or independents voted for Thune.

I missed this on the other thread. Which county is this and who controls it? This could be key.

74 posted on 11/06/2002 5:01:39 PM PST by SoCar
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