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Sniper Possibly Connected to Golf Course Shooting
Fox News
| November 5, 2002
| Fox News
Posted on 11/05/2002 12:04:55 PM PST by Peach
Fox News has reported that Mohammed is being investigated for a shooting in Tuscon, Arizona of a man on a golf course. As you may recall, this is right out of the AQ playbook.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: malvo; mohammed; sniper
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TexKat, another Freeper, alerted me to this news on Fox. If anyone hears anything further, please ping or freepmail me. Thanks. (We live on a golf course and so are particularly interested in this story.)
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:04:55 PM PST
by
Peach
To: Route66; Peach; Bella; Pete; areafiftyone; brigette; harpseal; Merovingian; Miss Marple; ...
Ping
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:06:07 PM PST
by
Peach
To: Peach
A date, or approximate date would be helpful. Arizona? That's way off the beaten path.
Please ping me if and when more details are revealed. Thanks.
To: Fred Mertz
Fred, the credit card was stolen from a bus driver in or around Flagstaff AZ.
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:11:18 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Fred Mertz
If Muhammad came down from Tacoma, it was probably on I-5, then east on I-10 headed for Louisiana, Alabama, and points east. I-10 passes thru the middle of Tucson.
To: Peach
Here's a little more:
Tucson killing checked for possible
link to sniper suspects
Associated Press
Nov. 5, 2002 12:25 PM
Tucson police are re-examining evidence in a March shooting after
learning that the men suspected in the Washington, D.C.-area sniper
shootings were in Tucson at the time a golfer was killed there.
The FBI notified Tucson police on Friday that John Allen Muhammad and
John Lee Malvo were in Tucson in mid-March visiting Muhammad's sister,
then a Tucson resident, according to a police new release Tuesday.
Jerry R. Taylor, 60, was shot and killed March 19 while practicing chip
shots at a golf course. The weapon involved is believed to have been a
rifle, police said.
Taylor was practicing alone, according to police. His body was discovered
by other golfers.
At the time, police considered robbery a possible motive for the killing.
A police spokesman could not be immediately reached for comment
Tuesday afternoon.
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:16:12 PM PST
by
Route66
To: Peach
veryyyyyyy interesting
To: Peach
I missed the Fox report but checked a local tv station site and found this:
BREAKING NEWS: Tucson murder may be linked to DC Sniper
The Montgomery County Task Force has given information to the Tucson Police Department that may link the D.C. area snipers, John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo to a murder in Tucson.
A release from the Tucson Police Department says that the Montgomery County Task Force is requesting the department re-examine evidence associated with the murder of Jerry Taylor, 60, was shot at the Fred Enke Golf Course on March 19.
Investigators have learned that John Muhammad and John Lee Malvo were in Tucson in mid-March visiting John Muhammad sister, who was then a Tucson resident. The weapon involved, according to the release, is believed to be a rifle.
Stay tuned to Eyewitness News for the latest.
Published: Nov. 5, 2002
Source:
http://kvoa.com/stories/11/1152002_0.html
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:19:54 PM PST
by
cyncooper
To: Route66
"The FBI notified Tucson police on Friday that John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo were in Tucson in mid-March visiting Muhammad's sister, then a Tucson resident, according to a police new release Tuesday." Unbelieveable!!
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:20:40 PM PST
by
blam
To: redlipstick
Check this out!
To: Peach
I seem to recall a FR thread on this shooting. Not sure how to find it, though.
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:21:17 PM PST
by
r9etb
To: blam
I just showed this to a office friend of mine & he had the same reaction: UNBELIEVABLE!
What is their body count going to end up being? Over 20? What evil monsters....
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:22:21 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Route66; aristeides; Grampa Dave; Shermy; FL_engineer; angkor; antivenom; Dog; tracer; ...
See #6 and #8 for possible March 19 shooting connection.
To: All
Thanks for the information; I hadn't heard this until another freeper sent me mail. If Mohammed shot this golfer, I wonder if anything was stolen or if he was just taking target practice?
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:27:21 PM PST
by
Peach
To: Peach
I can't get over the media still referring to Malvo as the 17 year old. Has that been proven yet or is it simply a ploy (that's working) for youthful offender status?
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:27:31 PM PST
by
Quilla
To: Quilla
Last I heard a few days ago, authorities were still trying to determine his age and relationship to Malvo.
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:31:38 PM PST
by
Peach
To: Catspaw; Fred Mertz; Grampa Dave; browardchad; Shermy; Miss Marple; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Fred, the credit card was stolen from a bus driver in or around Flagstaff AZ.
Actually, the driver is from Flagstaff. She's not quite sure where the card was stolen....
The credit card in question belonged to a Greyhound bus driver in Flagstaff, Ariz., whose driver's license and credit cards were stolen March 25. The woman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the cards were taken from a pouch behind her seat while she was driving a bus on the 337-mile route between Nogales, Ariz., and Flagstaff. She did not realize the Visa card had been stolen until Bank of America's fraud control branch wrote her April 11, saying it had automatically closed the account after the Visa was used for a $12.01 gasoline purchase in Tacoma, Wash., that the bank believed to be fraudulent.
"That was the end of that, until last Sunday when I had the FBI calling me at Greyhound, saying that through this credit card they [had a link to] the people involved with the sniping," she said.
LINK
The route from Nogales to Flagstaff travels right through Tucson.
Also of interest...
In particular, new attention has been focused on the Al Kifah Refugee Center, known in Arabic as the Office of Services of the Mujahideen, that gave birth, as prosecutors laid out in their complaints and indictments, to Bin Laden's secret terrorist organization. The Al Kifah Center was established in the early 1980's in Peshawar, Pakistan by Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, a Palestinian fundamentalist who spearheaded the jihad, or holy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan.
< -snip- >
Azzam built up the Al kifah Center to be the most effective jihad recruiting ground in the world, with officers in the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and throughout the Middle East. Al Kifah opened dozens of centers throughout the United States, mostly at mosques and Islamic community centers. Major Al Kifah Centers were set up in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Brooklyn, Jersey City, Pittsburgh, and Tucson, while 30 other American cities were the sites of subsidiary Al Kifah offices
< -snip- >
As the mujahideen realized victory in their jihad against the Soviets, the duty of jihad against the Soviets, the duty of jihad was expanded around the globe - any place that the enemies of Islam were deemed active. Al Kifah soon became an umbrella organization for worldwide jihad movements.
< -snip- >
Wadih El Hage, born in Lebanon in 1960, had come to the United States in the late 1970's to attend school at the University of Southwestern Louisiana in Lafayette. In 1987, he moved to Tucson, Arizona, where he became an active member of the Al Kifah office at the Islamic Center. He soon became caught up in the jihad fervor, catching the attention of senior Al Kifah officials in both Tucson and in New York.
< -snip- >
In early 1990, a black Muslim cleric named Rashid Khalifa was murdered in Tucson. Khalifa had practiced a sect that was deemed heretical by fundamentalist Muslims (Ahmadiyya). He was soon marked for death.
According to federal prosecutors and to information volunteered by El Hage in interviews he gave to FBI agents, a still unidentified man was sent to Tucson to do surveillance on Khalifa. This person visited El Hage at his home, had lunch together and then was driven by El Hage to Khalifa's mosque where the visitor recorded the movements of Khalifa. El Hage admitted before the grand jury that he never reported this visit to the authorities even though Khalifa was later found murdered. Federal records show that Kalifa was killed by a member of the Al-Fuqra organization, a black Muslim fundamentalist group that has engaged in a series of murders, robberies, and other attacks in Colorado and Canada. Members of AlFuqra were also indicted and convicted in the World Trade Center bombing conspiracy trials. Sources familiar with the investigation say that Al-Fuqra as early as 1988 in acquiring weapons and recruiting volunteers for the jihad in Afghanistan.
LINK
Post here to the thread if you'd like to be on or off the Sniper Muhammad ping list.
To: Peach; cherry
I take back what I said on another thread about the Short family murders in SW Virginia not being linked to Muhammad's own personal jihad. If this golf course shooting is linked to Muhammad, then it's right out of the AQ playbook. The playbook also talked about home invasions which is what happened in the Short murders.
Man, oh man, it just keeps making me wonder....
To: Peach
Sounds like his sister was another "safe haven".
He sure got around to his relatives during the last couple of years.
I can read my "brother" real well in a situation. Are these folks "playing" stupid??
To: Sabertooth
I can't believe the country-wide spread of this killing spree. This is huge. There has to be a connection somewhere to Al Fuqra or to some Muslim terrorist group somehow.
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posted on
11/05/2002 12:45:27 PM PST
by
Yaelle
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