FBI Agents 'Miffed' that Gun Owner Contacted Media

CNSNEWS.com ^ | 11/05/02 | Jeff Johnson

[jdogbearhunter]

PING

[harpseal]

really don't see how the FBI/ATF/TLA's intend to win the war on Islamakazis if they don't have/earn the trust of people like this guy.

The peasents' feelings are unimportant to the nobility. The FLEAS can not hope to win any war unless or until they have the active support of the American people. Under the previous administration and for quite a while before an us/them attitude developed in these agencies wher they viewed citizens as the enemy's support system. This was a direct result of the PC middle and upper management in place. It will take a lot of time and effort to fix this. So far there is no investment of either.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[chadwimc]

Just put the darn piece in the safe. Tell 'em "I can't get it open". They have to get a warrant. Which makes it public record. I respect the jobs cops do, hell, I'm even related to a fed. When it comes to "investigations" that might do me harm...Screw 'em!!!

[infowarrior]

Why didn't you trust us?

All things considered, such as Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the wholesale giving of sensitive raw data files to a pair of political hacks in the Clinton White House, why should he trust them?

the infowarrior

[Chapita]

Have a large portable recorder that they watch you turn off but keep a small recorder turned on in your pocket!

[DH]

Gee!  All of this time I thought that gun registration information was destroyed shortly after approval for purchase.  Isn't that what they told us?

You are an absolute fool if you comply with ANY attempts to register firearms purchased before the confiscation ploy was placed in force.  Furthermore, you are a fool if you purchase any gun anywhere other than a gun show or by private means that are exempt from registration.

Here in Texas you must show your driver's license to purchase ammo.  Of course, your driver's license is directly connected to your social security number and guess what?   The government circumvented the gun registration process because they know:

• Who you are.
• What type of gun you have.
• Your current address.
• Your finger print.
• How much ammo you have been buying.
• What you look like.

We have already given up our liberty and freedoms simply because women and timid males would gladly throw away rights granted by the Constitution and subsequent amendments in exchange for pseudo security granted by "Big Brother."

[btcusn]

Thats one damn good reason to reload, not to mention that you can shoot more!!
Jack

[harpseal]

Can you say do you have a warrant? I knew you could.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[6ppc]

I've seen several reports of these visits, and the question I never see answered is: "How did they know he owned this particular rifle?"

NICS wasn't in force in 1993 and in any case the records, by law, must be destroyed afterwards. No one seems to be investigating and publicizing this!

[WilliamWallace1999]

I live in Texas. What the hell are you talking about? I buy ammo all the time without ID and pay cash. In the last week I have purchase .357 mags, .308's, .223's, and .300 Ultra Mags without showing any ID (deer season opened).

[bvw]

Hey Vigilant1, this is in Maryland!

Brown's apprehension prompted him to contact an attorney, who instructed him on preparing for the visit. ... The agents asked Brown to step outside the home, away from the television crew, to talk. ... Brown began recapping the agreement he had made with Special Agent Metzger. when one of the agents realized Brown was wearing a wireless microphone, he stopped the conversation short. ... "Do you have a microphone on?" the agent asked as he reached toward the microphone clipped to Brown's shirt. Brown backed away and continued talking, but the agent interrupted him again. "Can you do me a favor?" the agent asked. "Can you take the apparatus off that you have on? I'd like to speak to you privately."

Wow, Viggy ... they FBI did not arrest Brown! Eeven though according to you, in Maryland they often prosecute people who tape conversations without getting the consent of all parties. And Mr. Brown had gotten the advice of an attorney! Gee wiz, maybe those FBI guys need YOU as their legal advisor.

Like you TOLD other people some days ago, according to councillor-wanna-be, you can't tape your own conversations in Maryland. Well maybe, just maybe you gave bad advice. Unsafe advice.

And maybe they don't really prosecute people at all for it in Maryland. That's what I think -- absent that political hound-dogging of Linda Tripp which was eventually completely dismissed. I think it is a ridiculous interpretation of any statute in these United States to hold that a person can't make a recording of any conversation he is a known part of -- especially one with as dread potential consequences as converstaions in this type of circumstance. No decent law can put a person at hazard. My layman's opinion.

[SWO]

I would be very interested in seeing a list, broken out by all the usual demographic categories, of folks who were visited during the sniper investigation because they owned .223s and those who had guns “Borrowed” for ballistic fingerprinting. I wonder if there might be some pattern discernable in the types of persons chosen for this special attention.

[dirtboy]

"One thing they said was, 'Don't you know people are dying and we're just trying to do our job?'"

It would have been nice if the FBI did their supposed job - and concentrated on the evidence coming in about a dark Caprice instead of using the sniper attacks as justification to pull gun-store records and harass law-abiding gun owners. That is the entire problem - the FBI has been so addled by political correctness that it filters valid evidence and wastes considerable man-hours chasing phantoms of its own creation.

[DH]

Buy those at Walmart did you? Last time I bought ammo at Walmart that is exactly what I had to go through!

[dirtboy]

Like you TOLD other people some days ago, according to councillor-wanna-be, you can't tape your own conversations in Maryland.

I have found that such laws are typically passed by corrupt lawmakers who do not want to get caught in a sting operation.

[Deguello]

"How did they know he owned this particular rifle?"

When you purchase a firearm, you will fill out a 4473 form. At the same time, the Dealer is required to make a entry into his Firearms Log.

The Firearms Log is required for any dealer. The dealer must log in firearms that he takes possesion of and log them out when they leave his business. The log book stays with the dealer untill the business closes for good. The book is then required to be sent to the ATF. The book is considered a Federal Document and is treated as such.

The laws covering the Firearms Log is different than for the Form 4473.

[Copernicus]

Unfortunately, this really isn't about gun control so much as it is about government control and the power of unsubstantiated allegations.

One of my favorite examples,a little over a year old now: Gill McGillicuddy-Click Here

Best regards,

[bvw]

How does one legally acquire a gun without getting recorded in some governmental database?

[MrB]

Re: Walmart
If Walmart puts you through an identification ritual that is not required by law, go somewhere else and pay a bit more.