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Will a Goldgate make Watergate look like a Sunday School picnic?

Something big, yet covert, is going on in the Mohave Desert over by Las Vegas. Near there is one of the largest veins of gold in the world in the decommissioned Chocolate Mountains Gunnery Range on what was government property. Other fingers on the same hand are pointing big time to the SF Bay Area.

Possessing that trait that makes one collect money wherever and however he can, it is easy to assume that Gray Davis will be where money can be obtained. Quid pro quo, also known as Davis' "Pay to Play" scam, is so common in Saco that it is no longer news. Seldom is it even reported. That kind of person can be expected to be where the money is.

Herein are posted stories telling where Gray Davis has been and the people with whom he has associated. The character of these people can be determined from their dealings. Can the character of Governor Gray Davis be determined by the company he keeps?

1 posted on 11/04/2002 6:44:47 PM PST by forest
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To: forest
Do you actually expect anyone to read this?
2 posted on 11/04/2002 6:55:26 PM PST by freebilly
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To: All
Following are the correct links:

Mesquite Mine

Calpers

California Public Employees Retirement System

Catellus

PO Box 1360

SFP

 

Thank for your patience.

Forest

4 posted on 11/04/2002 7:04:34 PM PST by forest
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To: forest
I guess we'll know for sure about G.Davis' gold when he starts doing the "Walter Huston" jig.
5 posted on 11/04/2002 7:05:05 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: forest
More like a Hillary Whitewater deal.
7 posted on 11/04/2002 7:48:21 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: forest
Some facts don't fit, Chocalate Mountain and Vegas are seperated by several hundred miles.

Chocolate Mountain Impact Area (R-2507)

The Chocolate Mountain Impact Area is an unnattended/non-instrumented ordnance range located approximately 60 NMI northwest of the MCAS Yuma TACAN, Channel 84. Access to the Chocolate Mountains is by air or surface roads. See Fig 3i-1, Fig 3i-5 or map image R-2507.

8 posted on 11/04/2002 7:58:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: forest; freebilly; July 4th; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Gophack; ElkGroveDan
Wow. The level of detail is impressive. And it truly does smell like maybe, just maybe the next big Davis scandal!

What can we do to get to the bottom of this? With the Nathanson letters and all the other scandals (see http://www.egray.org for many nauseating examples), the water is chummed. Need a hungry journalist to tackle this... ask the right people the right questions.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.
11 posted on 11/04/2002 8:42:02 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: forest
Thanks for presenting this information. I have long suspected some dirty doings in the Mojave, especially since the "California Desert Protection Act of 1994". Anything Dianne Feinstein supports always has a hidden agenda (she is cunning and clever; do not underestimate the power of the dark side!). Shining light on these shenanigans is a great public service.

I have to partially agree with freebilly in Post #2 in that the format of the presentation could use some work to improve readability and make a clearer case. Scams like these, like most white-collar crime, often make peoples' eyes glaze over the moment they are mentioned.

To counteract that natural reaction, in the spirit of vicarious editing, I respectfully recommend the following:

1) Although I know you want people to draw their own conclusions, help us along by stating yours at the very beginning. What have you, who have obviously looked into this rather deeply, concluded? Lay out your conclusions in either the introduction or a summary immediately following the intro, as any good thesis would do. This will help people skimming the article decide if the topic interests them enough to check out your sources.

2) Lay out the case, step by step. Some parts of this are more likely than others. Start with those parts of the story that are easiest to prove and most fundamental to making the case. Present your source information in the context of these points, beginning with the most verifiable. Doing this will help people to examine the source data with an eye for what's relevant to these scams.

3) Where not enough direct source information exists to form a solid conclusion, but signs point in a given direction, say so, distinguishing speculation from facts. With that disclaimer, explain the other, indirect evidence, that has lead you to believe something that is unproven may nonetheless be true. People will key in to that and it will help lend credibility to the case.

In my callow youth, I spent a lot of time bopping around the Mojave, and consider it one of the most beautiful places on Earth. Stories like this one interest me. I am always interested when scoundrels in public office abuse the public trust to enrich themselves and their cronies (ala Teapot Dome or Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument).

This looks potentially bigger than Teapot Dome (but probably not bigger than the Escalante clean-burning coal scam), and I would like to see more investigation into this.

I am willing to bounce this back and forth on the email backchannel and help out as an amateur editor. Just send me an email if you would like to do this.

Thanks again for presenting this information!

17 posted on 11/05/2002 3:04:29 AM PST by Imal
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To: forest
All I know is this: Gray Davis is a whore.
19 posted on 11/05/2002 10:05:33 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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