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Saddam Hints At Flexibility, US Ships Set Sail
Reuters/Yahoo ^ | 11-04-2002 | Samia Nakhoul/Evelyn Leopold

Posted on 11/04/2002 1:02:59 PM PST by blam

Saddam Hints at Flexibility, U.S. Ships Set Sail

By Samia Nakhoul and Evelyn Leopold

BAGHDAD/UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said Monday he would consider cooperating with a new U.N. resolution on arms inspections provided it was not merely a pretext for the United States to attack Iraq.

As intense diplomatic wrangling went on among major powers over how to deal with Iraq, there were growing signs that Washington was preparing for possible war. U.S. officials told Reuters three U.S. military cargo ships capable of carrying tanks had left U.S. shores.

"If a resolution is issued which respects the U.N. charter, international law and Iraq's sovereignty, security and independence, and does not provide a cover for America's ill intentions, we will view it in a way that makes us deal with it," official Iraqi television quoted Saddam as telling visiting far-right Austrian politician Joerg Haider.

In separate talks with South African Deputy Foreign Minister Aziz Pahad, Saddam said however: "If American pressures, temptations and threats led to resolutions that contradict the interests of Iraq, its security and independence, we will defend our people."

The first comment appeared to mark a possible shift in Baghdad's stance. Iraqi officials have previously been hostile to the idea of a new resolution governing U.N. inspections of its alleged programs to develop nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

The United States and Britain say they will make changes this week to a tough draft resolution intended to give inspectors unfettered access to sites in Iraq. The inspectors left Baghdad in 1998 complaining Iraqi authorities had consistently obstructed their work.

"HIDDEN TRIGGERS"

At issue is suspicion by France, Russia and China of "hidden triggers" in the wording of the resolution that would allow Washington to launch a military strike, overthrow Saddam and argue afterwards it had U.N. authorization.

France is lobbying hard to amend the draft resolution.

Diplomats say the differences among the five veto-holding permanent members of the Security Council -- the United States, Britain, Russia, China and France -- could delay a vote until after Tuesday's key mid-term U.S. elections.

Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain, the most steadfast of Washington's military allies, said on Monday the five were converging on agreement.

"We are reaching the point of closure, I think," Blair told a news conference. "The absolutely critical issue for us is that we get an inspection regime in there that doesn't have the problems the last one had," he said.

Secretary of State Colin Powell , national security adviser Condoleezza Rice , Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other officials were meeting in Washington on Monday to go over the draft and decide which changes were acceptable.

The United States expected to submit an amended resolution to the Security Council this week, the State Department said. President Bush on Monday lobbied President Vicente Fox of Mexico, considered a key voter on the council.

Leaders of 13 Asian countries, including China, called on Iraq to "fully comply" with U.N. resolutions after meeting in Phnom Penh, the Japanese news agency Kyodo reported.

U.S. SHIPS SET SAIL

The U.S. military cargo vessels, USNS Bellatrix, USNS Bob Hope and USNS Fisher, left U.S. shores in recent days, officials said.

The ships are just short of the length of aircraft carriers, and among the largest transport ships in the U.S. military's inventory. Two have seven decks capable of carrying tanks, helicopters and other heavy armor.

The deployment occurred as the aircraft carrier USS Constellation set sail for the Gulf from San Diego, California at the weekend.

Marge Holtz, director of Military Sealift Command, a branch of the U.S. Navy , declined to comment on the exact destination of the cargo vessels. "It is part of the repositioning of forces and equipment in support of the war on terror. They are en route," she told Reuters.

Iraq applauded key U.S. ally Saudi Arabia on Monday for forbidding U.S. forces to use its soil as a launchpad to attack Baghdad, saying it was "in line with Arab solidarity."

Saudi Arabia said it would not allow the United States to use its facilities to attack Iraq, even if a strike had U.N. sanction -- a pointed sign of how little enthusiasm frontline U.S. allies appear to feel for war.

Kuwait, delivered from Iraqi occupation 11 years ago by U.S.-led forces, said on Monday its bases would be used if a U.N. resolution was issued, but not its own troops.

In Turkey, a member of the NATO military alliance, the seismic election victory of a party with Islamist roots at the weekend added to doubts over how Turkish bases might be used by U.S. and British warplanes stationed there in the event of war.

The U.S. military has already moved large quantities of ammunition, armored vehicles, troops and command facilities to the Gulf region, where Western forces have land bases in several countries. A number of huge U.S. aircraft carriers are in striking distance of Iraq.

The practical support of Saudi Arabia or other individual U.S. allies in the region is not vital to that military buildup, but the lack of it could undermine Washington's claims to international legitimacy for attacking Iraq.

In secretive Iraq there were few visible signs of military activity, but there was other evidence the government was girding itself to deal with a possible attack.

Saddam has ordered double food rations to be provided for the population for two months in the event of war, his trade minister announced this week. Fuel dumps are being restocked and air raid warning sirens tested.

Diplomats say he has also made plans to nip any unrest in the bud to avoid a repeat of the 1991 post-Gulf War revolts by Shi'ite Muslims in the south and Kurds in the north. Saddam has appointed loyal army commanders as provincial governors with orders to respond swiftly to any trouble, the diplomats say.


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KEYWORDS: flexibility; hints; saddam; sail; ships; us
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1 posted on 11/04/2002 1:03:00 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
"Here come the planes..."
2 posted on 11/04/2002 1:04:31 PM PST by mhking
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To: blam
"Flexibility, indeed." As in "bending over and grabbing his ankles"....
3 posted on 11/04/2002 1:06:36 PM PST by tracer
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To: blam
Reservists Ordered To Mobilise (UK)
4 posted on 11/04/2002 1:07:31 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Saddam sez: "If condition #1, and condition #2, and condition #3, and condition #4, and condition #5, and condition #6 are met [I ain't kidding . . . count 'em], then we will view it in a way that makes us deal with it"

LOL, let's attack these swine and get it over with!

5 posted on 11/04/2002 1:12:36 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: blam
Saddam has ordered double food rations to be provided for the population for two months in the event of war, his trade minister announced this week.

Don't bother Saddam, the war with you is not going to last that long. Loser.

6 posted on 11/04/2002 1:15:47 PM PST by demlosers
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To: LibWhacker
I think we are getting near to doing so. In my local paper (Mobile Register) this morning they showed a group of Army reservists shipping out for duty. This group (There have been others) was an army transport group.
7 posted on 11/04/2002 1:17:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said Monday he would consider cooperating with a new U.N. resolution on arms inspections provided it was not merely a pretext for the United States to attack Iraq.

Saddam your a dumb @ss! The only reason you would consider letting in the inspectors IS because the threat of war is about to come down on your head.

8 posted on 11/04/2002 1:20:13 PM PST by demlosers
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To: mhking
US Plans New HQ In Horn (Africa)
9 posted on 11/04/2002 1:21:12 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Oh man, we are going, but to paraphrase W, in a time and in a manner of our choosing. Don't lose heart if this seems to drag on like a bad soap opera. Time is for once working in our favor. As we keep the international spotlight on Saddamm, he is unlikely to nuke anybody.
As we negotiate, we gather intelligience....intelligence was minimal during the Clinton years in more ways than one---> we may actually be able to take out the bad guys without killing alot of innocents. We pre-position forces--its easy to forget that the positioning of our forces prior to and after the gulf war took more time, money and effort than the duck shoot itself.

W is smart, he wants to win the war, not just the battle. Our troops in combat would kill the enemy and neutralize WMD's in a matter of hours, we need as W says regime change in Iraq, and as he hasn't said yet, regime change in Saudi Fink-rabia
10 posted on 11/04/2002 1:50:25 PM PST by Scarlet_Pimpernil
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To: blam
To the sailors on board the Bellatrix, Bob Hope, Fisher, and Constellation: fair winds and following seas. And to Saddam Hussein, run little man, run.
11 posted on 11/04/2002 1:55:35 PM PST by jpl
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To: blam
These punks don't get it . . . they start out their assertions with the word "IF", as if they are in a position, as the looser, to dictate terms to us, the victor, in what we can and cannot do to enforce the ceasefire agreement saddom signed to save his own skin.

Sad, indeed.

12 posted on 11/04/2002 2:05:26 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: blam
I've got a new plan. We get out of the United Nations and send them all to Saudi Arabia to be housed and supported!
13 posted on 11/04/2002 2:09:08 PM PST by Chapita
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To: blam
LINKS OF INTEREST:

BBC NEWS: "IRAQ OPENS BORDER WITH SAUDI" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Saudi goods imported by Iraq under the UN's oil for food programme have had to be transported via Jordan. The reopening of the Ar'ra crossing will mean they can be trucked straight across the border.") (103102)

AFTENPOSTEN.no - Norwegian News: "STATE PAYS TERROR SUSPECT'S LEGAL BILLS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Mulla Krekar was initially a refugee from Iraq who arrived in Norway in 1991, was granted residence permission and allowed to bring his family to Norway as well. He later traveled back to northern Iraq, however, where he allegedly has led guerrilla warfare in the area. Krekar also is suspected of having ties to the terrorist network al-Qaeda, and he was arrested at the airport in Amsterdam in September.") (102902)

GOOGLE Search Term: "ANSAR-AL-ISLAM"

ALBAWABA.com - THE Middle East Gateway: "LIGHTS, CAMERA ACTION? HOLLYWOOD STARS TAKE A STAND ON IRAQ" (102702)

WIRED.com NEWS: "DEAR SADDAM, HOW CAN I HELP?" by Brian McWilliams (102802)

THE IRAQI PRESIDENCY HOME PAGE & E-MAIL BOX (English/Arab)

INSIGHT On The News online: "CHINA MAKES SPYING A COMPANY POLICY" by Scott Wheeler (103002)

INSIGHT On The News online: "PRC ESPIONAGE LEADS TO 'TERF' WAR" by Scott Wheeler (ARTICLE NOTE: The PRC is The People's Republic of China.)

NewsMax.com: HOT TOPICS: "CHINA-TAIWAN"

14 posted on 11/04/2002 2:18:04 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Chapita
Nice how they assume that we need the Saudi's permission to use our bases there for any purpose whatsoever. What are they going to do about it? I'd think that maybe we're itching for them to try something - go ahead, make our day Ahmed. We've got your jihad, right here. All your oil are belong to us.
15 posted on 11/04/2002 2:19:22 PM PST by 11B3
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To: blam
While all this wrangling over the UN resolution has been going on, Iraq has probably shipped most all of it's WMD out of the country.

I don't think having this stuff in the hands of the Syrians, Saudis, or Iranians is much different from Saddam having it.
16 posted on 11/04/2002 5:05:54 PM PST by VMI70
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"While all this wrangling over the UN resolution has been going on, Iraq has probably shipped most all of it's WMD out of the country."

I worry about this too.

17 posted on 11/04/2002 5:09:54 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Now it's our turn; 'Let's Roll!

By JOC(SW/AW) Stephen K. Robinson
November 2, 2002

With more than 5,500 Sailors and Marines on board, the San Diego-based aircraft carrier, USS Constellation (CV 64), departed its' home port on a hazy, but bright, November Saturday morning. The Constellation, and Constellation Carrier Battle Group (CVBG), deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The 41-year-old Kitty Hawk-class carrier started its 21st deployment with Commander, Cruiser-Destroyer Group ONE, RADM Barry M. Costello, Commander, Destroyer Squadron SEVEN, CAPT Mark W. Balmert, and Carrier Air Wing TWO, CAPT Mark I. Fox embarked.

Other ships in the Constellation Battle Group which also departed San Diego on Saturday are; Ticonderoga-class cruisers USS Bunker Hill (CG 52) and USS Valley Forge (CG 50); Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Milius (DDG 69) and USS Higgins (DDG 76); the Olivier Hazard Perry-class guided-missile frigate USS Thach (FFG 43); and the Spruance-class USS Kinkaid (DD 965).

The fast combat support ship USS Rainier (AOE 7) out of Bremerton, Wash., is also part of the CVBG.

During a prior-departure media availability brief, Constellation's Commanding Officer, Capt. John W. Miller said that the Constellation Sailors have proven they are ready to carry out whatever tasking they receive. They have the skills and spirit to fight the war on terrorism.

The CVBG initially got underway on Oct. 17th for Joint Task Force Exercise (JTFEX), the final battle exercise examination which tests the Group's responsiveness to simulated operations that may be encountered during their deployment.

The Nov. 2nd departure followed a brief three-day in port period during which Constellation and embarked squadron Sailors and Marines on-loaded foods and supplies. The next few days will be spent off the Coast of Southern Calif., on-loading more supplies for the 2002-2003 deployment.

'America's Flagship' displaces approximately 88,000 tons and carries eight squadrons and two detachments of more than 70 of the world's most modern combat and support aircraft that which are launched and recovered on its 4.5-acre flight deck. The aircraft from various locations across the United States; from Naval Air stations Oceana, Va., Whidbey Island, Wash., Point Mugu and North Island, Calif.

Most recently Constellation earned the Sea Service Deployment Ribbon, the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, the National Defense Service Medal and the Meritorious Unit Commendation.
18 posted on 11/04/2002 6:41:16 PM PST by Tango Whiskey Papa
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Geez...looks like the 'big boys' have gone to sea. Let's Roll!!

(If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch)

19 posted on 11/04/2002 7:02:06 PM PST by blam
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Dear Saddam,

Too late @$$h0LE!

Signed,

W
20 posted on 11/04/2002 7:08:56 PM PST by Rockitz
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