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For the record if I lived in that last place hell hole home of the clinton crime machine, I'd be voting for Hutchinson because I believe GOP control of the Senate is what matters here. Now go take your medicine.
My point peacenik is that you are following the demo talking points with your constant mention of Hutchinson's divorce. The divorce happened and that was between Hutchinson and his wife and family and you seem to be some kind of ninny woman all a-twitter over it...hoping to carry other unthinking people along with your point.
I see through you however. You have no intellectual honesty. Hutchinson is a conservative and his record proves it and that is how I judge a senator.
According to people like you if Hutchinson had spit some gum out on the pavement it would be a scandal and you would be focusing on that to the point you would be losing your precious bodily fluids.
Were I in AR I would vote for him...maybe even work for him and donate to his campaign. All I'm saying is that his problem is self created. We painted ourselves into this corner by preaching family values and so on. I happen to believe in family values and believe that character counts I support folks who I believe feel the same way. I may not have supported Hutchinson in a primary, but I would certainly support him inthe general election. But I think that we as a Party need to look at this and think twice when we try to campaign as paragons of virtue...it's harder on us when we fail because we create the higher expectations.
Absolutely true. Hutchinson should not have inflicted himself on the party as a candidate for reelection.
Well said. There can be little doubt that his choices have struck a nerve. And, it will likely cost him re-election. Sad.
BTW, how does a neophyte like me italicize previous posts??
And I wasn't the one who brought this up, in this thread. I did find the responses that the divorce (which is a fact of this race, whether or not you like it or not) has had no impact to be delusional pipe dreams, however, and I said so. If that makes me too "dovish" for you (even though this has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of war), I guess I can live with that.
The divorce happened and that was between Hutchinson and his wife and family and you seem to be some kind of ninny woman all a-twitter over it
I don't care about Hutchinson's divorce at all, and it surely wouldn't change my vote, but I do have the basic perception skills and intellectual honesty to admit that it has made a difference to some people, both here and in his state. As for it being between him and his family, I actually agree with you. But some voters in his state do not.
Never take just one Baptist fishing with you. Always take two.
If you take one, he'll drink all the beer.
Judgementalism is often at its worst when Christians start comparing themselves to one another. And then what do they do?
They cut off their noses (vote out Hutchinson) and then wonder why they couldn't smell the s**t the guy who got elected starts shoveling at them.
Granted that the man has made mistakes. Name someone (besides Jesus Christ) who hasn't. Human mistakes are something that I can understand, and as long as they do not define a trend, I can live with them.
However, an organization which makes its policy the violation of law (DNC convicted of vote fraud in Federal Court and of accepting funds from a foreign nation hostile to the interest of our country)and the degradation of our constitutional system by actively denying the right to vote to a segment of our population (the DNC Policy Letter posted to their website showing how to deny the military absentee vote in the last Presidential campaign) is something I cannot live with.
In the GOP individuals will make mistakes and they will pay for it. In the DNC individuals will violate the law and will be applauded for it. The real sin to our country and it's citizens is the complete dishonesty of an entire political party and the majority of it's constituents.
In this case Mr Pryor might be the best man in the world, but if he works for a political party that encourages it's members to be dishonest he will be colored by that association.
Sen Hutchinson might have made a personal choice that I do not agree with, but his stand and proven political record on the issues shows an honesty to his stated convictions. This is a fact that is not true in the majority of cases with those associated with the DNC.
Mr Pryor has made his choice and stood up on the side of those who would destroy our freedom. There is no freedom without truth. For those that care about freedom, Hutchinson is our only choice.
Granted that honesty in any form can be tough to deal with, especially by those who portray themselves as Republicans or conservatives when they are really nothing of the sort. We can all see what an individual is by their actions.
You are obviously a liberal who is being less than honest. What are you afraid of? Why don't you stand up for what you believe instead of tearing others down. That is the real test of intellectual honesty.
Well said.
Hutchinson's divorce is a problem for some, I repeat some, voters in his state. That much is obvious to anyone with half a clue. I'm sorry you view it as controversial and disloyal, but then that's your problem, not mine.
Have fun continuing to stick your head in the sand, plug your ears and shout, "I'm not listening." I'd rather be honest with myself and have an open discussion that identifies potential problems and then tries to address them, rather than denying the problem exists at all.
That fake poll was a plant by the NY Times to try and scare Dem voters to increase turnout and to create complacency on the GOP side. Zogby has it 51-49 Dems. It is likely 50-49-1 GOP as it has been all year. Either way it will be very very close. All eyes on NH at 9PM.
I do not understand your reasoning. If you do not vote for a Republican but instead vote for a Democrat or waste your vote by voting other, what is your point?
If you are a Republican and believe in the Republican platform then why would you support a Democrat? Reality is that pouting and saying that you cannot stand a person for a mistake in his personal life means that you will sell out the other issues you say you believe are important.
If you want to discuss immorality I would bet you that I can find a lot more Democrats that fail this test than Republicans.
So, again, what is your point? A person who votes against a Republican is also voting against that platform. Seems to be simple logic to me. But, obviously if you are serious and not a Democrat plant you are looking for those individuals who do not make mistakes.
I am afraid you will not find many who fit that bill, but good luck. I will continue to look at the pattern or trend of the individual to see if the mistake is testimony to a larger flaw or if it is merely a simple mistake. Your reference to a painful truth must mean that you have some experience in this area.
However, your diatribe does show a level of irrational thought. There are some things that I disagree with but I do not let that disagreement impact on the goal at hand unless it directly impacts on my core beliefs.
In this case, divorce is recognized in our society as an admission of a mistake, but it is not formally punished, so in one aspect it becomes accepted.
My husband is in the military and although he does not believe in killing, he has been in combat and he would not hesitate to do what he needed to do.
But he would never say that killing was right, even against our enemies. He would do it because it would be the best of the terrible choices he would have to make at the time.
In a divorce people make this choice because they believe it is the best (or only) choice at the time. Do I agree with Hutchinson's choice in divorcing his wife? No, but I do agree that the rest of his record shows a dedication to the same ideals I believe important to our nation.
I would not vote for someone else who does not hold those beliefs just because the Republican choice made a mistake. To do so seems irrational and that is what I understand you would do.
Laura, I am as much a Republican as you are...I also appreciate YOU supporting Hutchinson..:~)
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I agree with you. His divorce, and the circumstances involved in that divorce may not be a deal breaker for you and/or me.......but it obviously is for enough voters to make this thing a toss up, at best.
Again, I wish people could view it as what is best for AR and the US.
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