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First off, to me it was an aside, not that big a deal, something worth noting and moving on. If other people insist on tilting at windmills that's not my problem.

In your misguided attempt to discredit this subject, you've actually brought attention to possible criminal activity. You should be proud of yourself. I find it amusing at least...

But your attempt at an explaination doesn't make sense either. It's a matter of scope, the alleged applications in question are for 3120 programmer/analysts working in America but not born here. According to the info FL found the company has 300 engineers (which since they do software as well as hardware is probably a group that includes but is not restricted to the programer analysts) in their entire opperation, in America and otherwise, born in America and otherwise.

And that would never have seen the light of day if the records weren't available to the public. The sheer fact that they claimed they needed 30 "programmer/analysists" at each of their many sales offices should raise a few eyebrows. But it is ENTIRELY possible that they thought nobody would notice, and obviously up to now nobody has...

By any form of logical analysis that second group should be the larger of the two, and definitely not 1/10 the first. The only way it makes sense is if they've laid off at least 90% of their enginneering force inbetween when the filing was made and now. Or something is being heavily misinterpretted.

That or there is some serious fraud going on. It DOES occur, and the GAO has said that it does. NO enforcement actions are ever taken though, so why SHOULDN'T companies lie on their applications?

I've seen the stats, I'm not impressed. So there's 1 million H1Bs in the country, and we have what 150 maybe 180 million working Americans.

And the H1-B workers in the computer industry occupations outnumber other occupations 15 to 1.

Also note that the VAST majority of the H1Bs AREN'T in software or tech. They're all over the place, scattered throughout the job market.

That is grossly inaccurate and untrue. It appears to me at least that you have an agenda here. If you are simply misguided and uninformed, why don't you take a look at the following link. Perhaps it'll enlighten you.

Debunking the Myth of a Desperate Software Labor Shortage

It wasn't misguided, given that all my ammo has come from links you've provided I'd hardly say I was attempting to discredit anything, and gulliblity isn't criminal. There's nothing to be proud of or amused by, the data sucks, I'm in QA that kind of stuff sticks out.

There's nothing to come to light. Look it's a simple marter of smarts. If you're going to fraudulently file 3000 H1B applications (for reasons you have yet to figure out, what is to be gained by having permission to imports thousands of workers you're not going to import, that's one of the reasons I'm not buying that it's DCM's fault, you've presented no worthwhile motive) you don't make it so painfully obvious. Rule #1 of commiting fraud is to hide it. By filing 104 applications on the same day, some to the same city, they'd be maximizing they're opportunity to raise red flags. And AGAIN I'll re-iterate the very important FACT you keep ignoring:
DCM is not even close to the only company listing this way, I gave you another example that you've completely ignored all day and there's plenty more where that came from.
Just doesn't make sense for ALL of these companies to be fraudulently filing unnecessary H1Bs and to be doing so in such an idiotic and easily detected way. Doesn't add up. It's much more likely that the problem lies in how somebody is processing the data, maybe DOL maybe zozom or whoevers running the web site in question. If DCM was the only one I'd be with you, but they're not and not by a long shot. I don't think they claimed any such thing, I think crappy data is making it look that way.

Was the other fraud done like this? None of what I've seen (again coming from link YOU provided) works this way. Give me a motive, what's to be gained with permission to import 3000 H1B workers and zero intention to use them?

You've shown me nothing that gives a job category distribution of H1Bs. The questionable sites querying method and limited results set isn't useful for determining that information.

hey there's a favorite uselss link. Sorry I've gone through the process of trying to hire tech workers during the boom. The shortage was no myth, at least not here.

Here's some fun to show you more of why I think the problem is in how somebody is handling this data, I did 3 searches, they were all for H1B's, Computer: Programmer/analysts, by whole state, 2001 for the year, 50 results per page. I did this once to AZ, once to CA and the last time to NY. Then looked for duplicates on JUST the first page, here's my results, unless otherwise noted these are complete duplicates at least within the presented data (so same job title, salary, start date, end date, and same number of aliens):
Arizona
ABCOM CONSULTING AND TRNG LLC 4 listings 10 people Phoenix
ANGELICA'S RECORD DISTRIBUTOR 2 listings 1 person Phoenix
APAR INFOTECH CORPORATION 4 listings 20 people Phoenix
ARCSIGHT INC 1 listing 5 people and 3 listing for 1 person Tempe
AVNET INC 2 listings 3 people Chandler
AXSYS AUTOMATION 3 listing 1 person Scottsdale

California
12 TECHNOLOGIES INC 3 listing 5 people SF Area (other listings for different dates and/ or places)
3COM CORPORATION good proof of non-duplicates, same date entries vary in salary and/ or locations, no true dups
3CX INC 2 entries 3 people San Jose
3D INTERNATIONAL LLC 3 listings 1 person Van Nuys

New York
@ THOUGHT TECHNOLOGIES LLC 2 listings 10 people New York
4 HOUR WIRELESS 2 listings 1 person Plainview
4U SERVICES INC 2 listings 1 person New York
57TH AVENUE MARKET INC 2 listings 1 person Corona
9 BROTHERS BUILDING SUPPLY C0 2 listings 1 person Brentwood
9 THOUGHT TECHNOLOGIES LLC 2 listings 10 people New York
9278 COMMUNICATIONS INC 2 listings 10 people Bronx
A I CREDIT CORPORATION 2 listings 1 person New York
ABACUS SOFTWARE GROUP 2 listings 1 person New York
ABB TURBOCHARGER CO 2 listings 1 person North Brunswick
ABCOM CONSULTING AND TRNG LLC 2 listings 10 people Buffalo
ABN AMRO INC mixed in there are 3 listings identical listings for 2 people New York, they've got a bunch on that date though could be crappy paperwork

Now either all of these companies are pulling a fast one or there's something seriously screwed up in the data handling.