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Wiccans Offer Alternative to Boy Scouts
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| October 31, 2002
| Michael L. Betsch
Posted on 10/31/2002 9:05:17 AM PST by H8DEMS
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To: OPS4
aahhh.....Wiccans are not Satanists. Different club, different rules.
Its not that I mind mindless intolerance, just get the hate pointed in the right direction.
To: TexVet
:-D Would you believe Iowa!?
To: H8DEMS
Ummm. so. Last time I checked it was a free country. If the Wiccans want to form a group, let 'em form a group. so what.
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:52:42 AM PST
by
jjm2111
To: Hunble
Nice to be seen. ;-)
To: biblewonk
Give me a fricking break, it is obvious that you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
Most male Wiccans that I know are happily married to a FEMALE, and have 2 or more children. I do know of some gay wiccans, but a majority? NOT by a long shot.
I believe that being gay is wrong, it is against nature, therefore if I do run across a gay pagan, I will normally keep my distance. but most Gay pagans do not spout it. They keep it in the closet, because it is no ones business but their own.
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:53:14 AM PST
by
Aric2000
To: biblewonk
Are you calling me a "homo"? My wife might be interested to hear that.
To: biblewonk
I come across a male into wicca he's a homo Thanks for that wisdom. I will tell my wife all about that tonight.
JimRob has requested that I do not talk about my religion of 30 years, and I will respect his wishes.
However, it is Halloween today, and I will address lies and slander if they are posted.
Fair?
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:54:20 AM PST
by
Hunble
To: OPS4
If a pagan wishes to be a Boy Scout and admits that they are pagan, they CANNOT join the boy scouts.
The boy scouts have EVERY right to do that, but Pagans have EVERY right to start their own groups if they feel that it will be advantageous to their children.
Therefore the Spiral Scouts are a wonderful idea as far as I am concerned. and if you do not understand the spiral, you need to do a bit more research into paganism.
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:55:40 AM PST
by
Aric2000
To: Dead Corpse
Nope, He was satans man.
I follow Jesus Christ and his teachings.
How about you?
Spellling? Gee I have not continued my research on him since about 15 years ago it was not fresh in my mind.
Ops4 God Bless America!
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:57:10 AM PST
by
OPS4
To: Aric2000
If a pagan wishes to be a Boy Scout and admits that they are pagan, they CANNOT join the boy scouts. The Boy Scouts is a private organization and they can do what they wish. I absolutly support this position.
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posted on
10/31/2002 11:57:58 AM PST
by
Hunble
To: Aric2000
I understand that if someone wishes to accept alternative ways of seeking the truth,they can, but taking on the tried and true American Christian values of the Scouts and attacking them for it is no different.
So when the shoe is on the other foot you dont like it.
Ops4 God Bless america!
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posted on
10/31/2002 12:01:03 PM PST
by
OPS4
To: OPS4
Wow, I follow Jesus Christ and am Wicca also.
Amazing!
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posted on
10/31/2002 12:01:28 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: Hunble
If I remember my Order of the Arrow and Eagle scout stuff, much of it was based on Native American (Indian) culture and values. Respecting each other, loving the eart--that sort of stuff. I spent a couple of years getting booked to do Indian Dances at scout meetings. Decent pocket money for hopping around with a dress on.
Pretty pagan if you ask me.
To: OPS4
Satanic values as outlined by Lavey and Crowley are the final destruction of mans free will and moral values,
with a final out come of men destroying each other like maggots! So Satan can devour their souls.
whatever.
BTW - You might want to read up on Pagan/Wiccan. They don't BELIEVE in Satan/Devil/whatever you want to call him, so it would REALLY be hard for them to worship him.....
To: Aric2000
I believe that being gay is wrong, it is against nature, therefore if I do run across a gay pagan, I will normally keep my distance. but most Gay pagans do not spout it. They keep it in the closet, because it is no ones business but their own. What's nature got to do with "An it harm none do thy own will"?
To: TexVet
Your wisecrack was one of the most biggotted, uneducated, narrow minded comment I've seen on FR. Damn, but that "counting to one" thing sure has got you stymied, hasn't it? Must be all those biggots distracting you.
I guess you and I haven't become acquainted yet, have we?
To: Hunble
That is great! I am Glad you follow Him, and have no strange gods before him. Is that Right?
Ops4 God Bless America!
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posted on
10/31/2002 12:04:05 PM PST
by
OPS4
To: Vermont Lt
Living and learning about nature is a good thing, no matter what religion you belong to.
Just remember what Ronald Regan said on another topic:
TRUST BUT VERIFY
Wise word, that I have always lived by.
Having been a Boy Scout, I do tend to get rather upset when they are attacked. Unfortunatly, that is not today's topic.
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posted on
10/31/2002 12:05:54 PM PST
by
Hunble
To: OPS4
Good for you. You seem happy with your religion. Now follow your books advice and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
You do realize that the whole "suffer not a witch to live" stuff is a translation error don't you? Original word meant "poisoner". Since "witches" made potions, and weren't exactly favorites of early Church fathers, they got pinned with it.
LeVay was just some ghoul that wanted a way to espouse a secular humanist (ie; Man is God) position in the most flamboyant way possible by utilizing the antithesis of the Christian religion. He even co-opted the inverted pentacle which was an old Temple of Solomon symbol for a "focus on the physical realm". Stirring the batter even further, he combined in some Babylonian mythology and called it the Sign of Baphomet.
15 years? Time for a refresher course.
To: Dead Corpse
I haven't been to any coven meetings, maybe I'd meet more of you there. I certainly see a lot of wiccan web pages with hetero couples which is what I had hoped to meet and discuss spiritual things with. Just not finding any, until now maybe.
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