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Carrs' defense rests; jury deliberation near [Wichita Massacre Day 17]
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 10/31/02 | Ron Sylvester

Posted on 10/31/2002 7:32:48 AM PST by KS Flyover

Carrs' defense rests; jury deliberation near

After listening to agonizing details of five killings, repeated rapes and robberies, jurors in the capital murder case of Reginald and Jonathan Carr finally had something to smile about Wednesday.

They'll get the case today.

"We rest," said Mark Manna, one of Jonathan Carr's lawyers, after introducing his lone piece of evidence: an Amtrak train ticket from Newton to Cleveland, Ohio, for the morning of a quadruple homicide.

Manna's minute-long presentation brought smiles from jurors, who'd spent the day listening to a DNA expert testify for Reginald Carr. That witness did little to dispute the findings of the state's forensic analyst, and underwent a blistering cross-examination from prosecutor Kim Parker.

But the jury will have to sit a few more hours this morning, starting with what could be the most complex part of an already complicated case.

They'll receive a half-inch thick binder that includes 72 jury instructions, outlining the laws they must follow in reaching their verdicts. Many of those instructions have multiple parts. For example:

The jury can find either or both of the Dodge City brothers guilty of capital murder in the killing of three men and a woman on Dec. 15, 2000, at an east Wichita soccer complex.

It can consider four counts of first-degree premeditated murder.

It can consider four counts of second-degree murder.

Judge Paul Clark will give copies to each juror and read the instructions aloud.

Each side will get up to two hours for closing arguments, but lawyers for all sides have told Clark they don't expect to use all of their allotted time.

Such arguments can be persuasive and often do sway verdicts, but Clark will tell the jury that closings aren't evidence and shouldn't influence their decision.

Observers watching the live televised trial could find closing arguments one of the most interesting aspects of the trial. It's when lawyers try to make sense of the weeks of evidence and cross-examinations and show off their oratory skills.

Reginald Carr's defense, meanwhile, rested after three days of evidence, the main purpose of which was to highlight areas that could crop up on appeal, should the jury return a guilty verdict.

All murder convictions, but especially capital murder convictions, go through extensive review in higher courts. Most of Reginald Carr's defense seemed centered on trying to submit evidence that Clark wouldn't allow, raising legal issues that an appellate court may ultimately have to decide.

Some efforts sparked courtroom fireworks.

Lawyer Val Wachtel, for instance, wanted to try and defend Reginald Carr against charges of fatally shooting Ann Walenta by offering medical records to suggest that the Wichita Symphony cellist died as a result of medical malpractice. Clark repeatedly denied Wachtel's request, which can now be considered on appeal.

But the move spurred Sedgwick County District Attorney Nola Foulston to call the tactic "a sham" and produce medical records to show that hospital personnel treated Walenta appropriately.

Clark took Foulston's records and put them aside, with Wachtel's documents, for possible appeal. The jury won't see them.

The sole witness Wednesday was Jami Harman, a DNA expert with a private lab in the St. Louis area.

Harman pointed out that a Kansas Bureau of Investigation analyst had described one piece of evidence in a half-dozen ways.

Harman also criticized the way the KBI lab experts filled out portions of their paperwork and questioned the validity of trying to identify individuals in mixtures that include the DNA of several people.

Although the KBI presented some strong and damaging evidence during the trial, Harman spent most of her testimony explaining the weakest test.

A swab taken from the left thigh of a surviving woman, who'd lived through the soccer complex shooting and suffered several rapes, turned up spotty DNA results. Hers was present, of course. And so was a mixture that might be both Jonathan and Reginald Carr. But since they're brothers, and share much common DNA, the KBI could not match both brothers, but could not rule them out, either.

Neither could Harman.

"Based on the data, he could not be ruled out as a possible donor," she said of Reginald Carr.

Parker, the chief deputy district attorney, focused her cross-examination on the fact that Harman herself didn't do any DNA testing, just graded the reports submitted by the KBI's expert, Sindey Schueler.

Bringing out the state's strongest DNA evidence against Reginald Carr, Parker produced a pair of his red sweat shorts his girlfriend said he wore under his baggy jeans.

Parker pointed to spaces where stains were cut from the shorts and asked Harman:

"As far as you're concerned, Ms. Schueler was correct when she concluded that those stains were Heather Muller's blood?"

"Yes," Harman said. She did not dispute that Reginald Carr was wearing the blood of one of the homicide victims on his underwear.



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KEYWORDS: carr; kansas; wichita; wichitamassacre
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1 posted on 10/31/2002 7:32:49 AM PST by KS Flyover
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To: TroutStalker; alfa6; mjaneangels@aolcom; carlo3b; dennisw; Judith Anne; AK2KX; sheik yerbouty; ...
"Wichita Massacre" murder trial "Ping List"
Please let me know if you want on (or off) this list.


2 posted on 10/31/2002 7:33:36 AM PST by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
Please
3 posted on 10/31/2002 7:35:00 AM PST by junta
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To: KS Flyover
"medical records to suggest that the Wichita Symphony cellist died as a result of medical malpractice."

RIGHT! If these punks wouldn't have shot her several times in the FIRST place, she would have never been in the freaking hospital! Unbelievable!

Also, the two women out of the five were raped several times, indeed! Try at least 10+ times, and in more ways than one. This is a despicable crime, the worst that I can ever recall hearing about. May these two burn in hell.

4 posted on 10/31/2002 7:45:18 AM PST by IamHD
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To: KS Flyover
Thanks for the ping. May justice be served.
5 posted on 10/31/2002 7:59:07 AM PST by sawsalimb
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To: KS Flyover
Here is hoping for a quick guilty verdict.
6 posted on 10/31/2002 7:59:55 AM PST by Corporate Law
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To: KS Flyover
Jury deliberations should be the shortest part of this trial. However, the appeals process will allow these animals to live for another ten years.
7 posted on 10/31/2002 8:06:57 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: KS Flyover
Makes you wonder what might have been the outcome had the victims themselves been armed. Certainly not a shining moment for "gun control". Additionally, what man would (or 3 men) cower in a closet while their fiance was being raped? And whay have "hate crime" charges not been filed?
8 posted on 10/31/2002 8:09:51 AM PST by AngryOne
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To: AngryOne
Additionally, what man would (or 3 men) cower in a closet while their fiance was being raped?

Why, the sensitive, caring, nurturing kind of man that our public schools are producing by the boat load. After all, any kind of 'conflict resolution' attempted here might have hurt the killers' self-esteem, and might have even been perceived by the killers as overt racism. Definitely not in keeping with the best traditions of...</sarcasm> ENOUGH!

There are other kinds of American men, but tons of them are in Ashcanistan right now.
9 posted on 10/31/2002 8:22:31 AM PST by timpad
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To: KS Flyover
Fox News has had a reporter on the scene at the court house for the past two days at least, and he gives a report periodically. In fact he just finished a report.
10 posted on 10/31/2002 8:25:05 AM PST by jackbill
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To: timpad; AngryOne
I, too wish this group had had a gun and knew how to use it but the comments of you two make me sick. Knowing some of the details of this case would help before you bad-mouth people who are now DEAD.
11 posted on 10/31/2002 8:39:13 AM PST by I. Ben Hurt
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To: jackbill
Hang Em!
12 posted on 10/31/2002 9:07:58 AM PST by Area51
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To: I. Ben Hurt
Knowing some of the details of this case would help before you bad-mouth people who are now DEAD.

What detail am I missing?
13 posted on 10/31/2002 9:29:58 AM PST by timpad
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To: KS Flyover
As always, thanks for the ping KS

I thought I'd put this out for everyone's entertainment. It also appeared in the Eagle in an opinion column today--

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/4406634.htm

third paragraph from the bottom--"It's no big surprise that the murder trial of Reginald and Jonathan Carr has had so much media coverage. I seriously doubt it would be that way if the victims were black."--

14 posted on 10/31/2002 10:11:34 AM PST by republicman
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To: republicman
Funny (not haha) thing, if it weren't for FR, I would have never known about this massacre..
15 posted on 10/31/2002 10:34:42 AM PST by IamHD
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To: KS Flyover
All murder convictions, but especially capital murder convictions, go through extensive review in higher courts.

In a nutshell that's a big part of what's wrong with our criminal legal system. If there are serious procedural errors that could have led to a different verdict appeal should be granted.

But in cases like this all it does it let criminal turds live another 10 years at taxpayer expense.

16 posted on 10/31/2002 10:37:58 AM PST by republicman
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To: IamHD
Same here. They sure hushed it up in the media, didn't they? I can't wait for Satan to get his grubby little paws on them.
17 posted on 10/31/2002 10:41:34 AM PST by Future Snake Eater
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To: KS Flyover
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Johnny Rocker's irrelevant statements drew far more outrage form the media and from the politicians that the horrific deads of the Carr brothers.

Incidentally, a Steve Campbell, writing for Albany (NY) Times Union, equated Rocker with Mike Tyson.

18 posted on 10/31/2002 10:47:01 AM PST by Dante3
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To: IamHD
Funny (not haha) thing, if it weren't for FR, I would have never known about this massacre..

I have to forward this thread to co-workers as almost nobody has heard of this!!!

Eaker

19 posted on 10/31/2002 10:52:31 AM PST by Eaker
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To: Future Snake Eater
"They sure hushed it up in the media, didn't they?"

They certainly did! The opinionated opinion writer in that newspaper seems to be ignorant of the facts of the VICIOUSNESS as to what these scumbags subjected these innocent young people to. In fact, this is being hushed up because the PERPS are black.

20 posted on 10/31/2002 11:02:44 AM PST by IamHD
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