Dole Links License To Drug Test

Charlotte Observer ^ | October 30, 2002 | Mark Johnson

[The Other Harry]

Help me out. Why is this a federal matter?

And there seem to be as many Republicans as Democrats who think so. Maybe more.

[Constitution Day]

NC ping!

Please FRmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.

[AAABEST]

His support of Bowles was illogical...

Of course it was, because he's a rebellious stupid kid. His non-support for the misguided twit Dole was not illogical in the least.

I can understand his frustration. The "Republicans" in my chaing of command is in the process of destroying my community in a wholesale fashion, every sinlge one of them.

When I state "destroying my community in a wholesale fashion, every single one of them" I'm not exaggerating in the least. Every single republican in my chain of command really is in the process of destroying my commmunity in a wholesale fashion. Your country is next.

I feel Darth's pain.

[mewzilla]

Forget testing before they get their license. That was my whole point. Penalities after they get it would be far more effective that pre-announced testing they can get clean in time to take. And I don't know about where you live, but around here plenty of kids get caught with drugs and/or booze. I just think a lot more would be inclined to steer clear if it could mean losing their driving privileges.

[cynicom]

Tell socialist Dole to keep her nose and the Federal nose the hell out of driver license business. I voted against Bowels, not for Dole.

[BlackbirdSST]

There would have to be mandatory tests every thirty days or less to ensure that. With the exception of weed, this test will have to occur inside of every 72 Hour's, since most chem's are out of your system within that time span. Great idea from a RINO, Liddy "the dolt" Dole. Gunowner's beware! Blackbird.

[AAABEST]

OK he was banned because he stated politely he was voting for Foreskin Bowels.

Is that "right" enough for you Ham?

[yendu bwam]

So are you saying I shouldn't have been allowed to get a drivers license because I drank alcohol a week before my driving test. Pot can show up in a test a month after someone smokes it but they aren't still high. Be the way, I was 23 when I got my license so it was legal for me to drink.

Sure, muggs. Pot and alcohol are debatable topics - in this scenario as well. But anyone who shows that they are doing hard drugs is showing a blatant disregard for the law (which cannot be condoned on the road), are likely addicted (which means that they will have problems NOT taking the drug in question while driving), are showing enormous irresponsibility with regard to their own well-being (yes, that's their business - but it shows that they are, on average, not so likely to be concerned with others' well-being), shouldn't be driving. In my town, we have several fatal car wrecks every year (often involving, maiming or killing passers-by) involving kids on drugs. I have a family. I do NOT want kids driving around who do drugs. You can disagree with that. But the vast, vast majority of parents will agree with me. Anything that makes my kids and my wife safer from the predations of others is something that I will strongly consider.

[cynicom]

Dane...Better check you facts....Dole was a cheer leader for Lyndon Johnson, way back... Dole is nothing more that a political opportunist.

[AppyPappy]

When I state "destroying my community in a wholesale fashion, every single one of them" I'm not exaggerating in the least. Every single republican in my chain of command really is in the process of destroying my commmunity in a wholesale fashion.

You know, Mr. Hyperbole is not always your friend.

[muggs]

Anything that makes my kids and my wife safer from the predations of others is something that I will strongly consider.

Maybe you should consider locking them up in the house. That would keep them much safer from DUI drivers.

[The Other Harry]

Dane...Better check you facts....Dole was a cheer leader for Lyndon Johnson, way back... Dole is nothing more that a political opportunist.

Franky, I hope she loses. I don't think she will, but I could do without her.

[NittanyLion]

I do NOT want kids driving around who do drugs. You can disagree with that. But the vast, vast majority of parents will agree with me. Anything that makes my kids and my wife safer from the predations of others is something that I will strongly consider.

That's fine, at the state level. Why anyone would want the federal government mucking around with the issue of state-issued drivers' licenses is beyond me. Particularly at a time when we're one or two terrorist attacks away from a national drivers' license with an accompanying biometric database.

[yendu bwam]

Tell socialist Dole to keep her nose and the Federal nose the hell out of driver license business. I voted against Bowels, not for Dole.

Socialism is an economic system in which the government owns many of the large businesses in the society. The government (whether you like it or not) passes laws every day which are believed (and yes, sometimes they are poorly designed) to help protect citizens from questionable behaviors or dangers emanating from others. That's why in many places: you can't shoot guns into the air over crowds (because falling bullets can seriously injure people), you can't raise tigers and let them loose, you can't drive with poor eyesight, you can't transport radioactive and biological hazard materials through many neighborhoods, etc. etc.

[yendu bwam]

That's fine, at the state level. Why anyone would want the federal government mucking around with the issue of state-issued drivers' licenses is beyond me. Particularly at a time when we're one or two terrorist attacks away from a national drivers' license with an accompanying biometric database.

Sure there, NL. I would much prefer that this be at the state level - and that's where it belongs under our Constitution. But I AM in favor of forcing kids to be off drugs before they get a drivers license.

[cynicom]

Regardless of how the pubs package and sugarcoat Dole, she is nothing more than an elitist socialist. Pubs here just cannot bring themselves to swallow that bitter pill called the "truth".

[billbears]

Why is this a federal matter?

Appy, you should already know, everything to Liddy is a federal matter. Apparently and especially what we do in our cars. The separate state legislatures exist just to rubber stamp federal initiatives she and others like her push. To make it appear all 'legal'. I'm just suprised she hasn't suggested bolting us in and having a computer in Washington drive the car for us

[The Other Harry]

Dane...Better check you facts....Dole was a cheer leader for Lyndon Johnson, way back... Dole is nothing more that a political opportunist.

She is no more from NC than I am from KS.

As far as I'm concerned, she should move "elsewhere".

And so should that pansy husband of hers.

They can take Trent Lott with them while they're at it.

[Area51]

Yeah baby. Where are all those "Vote Party First" fools?
I hope it Makes you swell with Pride to see what you are supporting.

Excuse me while I go hurl.

[philman_36]

Penalities after they get it would be far more effective that pre-announced testing they can get clean in time to take.
That is already on the books too. Plenty of "penalties" after they get it already exist!
Those "penalties" don't seem too effective, despite everyone knowing about them.