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Feds Criticized in Sniper
Case
Associated Press ^
| Wednesday, October 30, 2002
| STEPHEN MANNING
Posted on 10/30/2002 4:20:46 PM PST by Dog Gone
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posted on
10/30/2002 4:20:47 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: Dog Gone
preventing investigators from obtaining information about the shooting spree, a local law enforcement source complained Wednesday. Moose, is that you? Worried that they got your number, perhaps?
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posted on
10/30/2002 4:52:44 PM PST
by
Cachelot
To: Cachelot
Do you honestly trust the Feds to always do the right thing here? Especially on a multiple murder case such as this one, which is primarily a LOCAL/state crime?
We saw what a great job they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco, now didn't we? /sarcasm off
To: *bang_list; *TRT
BANG!
To: Dog Gone
But the local law enforcement source said the task force wanted the government to dismiss the federal gun charge, a misdemeanor...Sorry, all federal "gun charges" are felonies. Ask Randy Weaver, or anybody else who has run afoul of federal gun laws, and survived.
There are certainly bigger charges than that to fry these two with, but as far as I have heard, the feds can only trace the rifle from the factory to the West Coast wholesaler. I'm beginning to suspect that the feds feel that there are questions that should not be asked, and are afraid of something getting out in trials in the states on murder.
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posted on
10/30/2002 9:15:54 PM PST
by
300winmag
To: 300winmag
I'm beginning to suspect that the feds feel that there are questions that should not be asked, and are afraid of something getting out in trials in the states on murder.You bet they are. I think it's a darn good bet that one of the alphabets was running him as an agent/informant and he outmanuevered them. There are just too many oddities in his known past to be explained away by any other explanation in my book.
To: aristeides; thinden; honway; archy; Sabertooth
fyi
To: Lion's Cub
I wish I knew you because you sound like a fun person to bet with!
To: Dog Gone
I haven't a clue about this sit'n... passing weird. Not much internet noise either except for the feeling that the items in the car such as the GP satellite system may have been planted. We'll never hear either Malvo or JAW aka Muhammed speak in their own voice in their own defense. One interesting detail is that the Bushmaster rifle which the police now claim to have found in the blue Caprice was, according to the gunshop owner, sold back by JAW-M to the gun shop in Washington State and later resold to another buyer (name unknown)... Hmmm, suddenly the papwerwork for these transactions has gone missing. Who knows???
Here is a copy (supposedly) of the sniper's blackmail letter to the police (from cryptome.org):
Pg 1.
For you Mr. Police
"Call me God."
Do not release to the press.
We have tried to contact you
to start negotiation, But the
incompitence of your forces in
(i) Mongomery Police "Officer Derick"
at 240-773-5000 Friday.
(ii) Rockville Police Dept. "female officer"
(iii) Task force "FBI" "female"
at 1888-324-8800 (four times)
(iv) Priest at Ashland.
(v) CNN Washington DC at 202-898-7900
These people took of calls
for a Hoax or Joke, so your
failure to respond has cost you
five lives.
If stopping the killing is
[end page 1]
Pg 2.
more important than catching us
now, then you will accept our
demand which are non-nego-
tiable.
(i) You will place ten million
dollar in Bank of America.
Account no. 4024-0046-2875
-9173.
Pin no. 9595.
Activation date 08/01/01
Exp. date 09/04
Name: Jill Lynn Farell.
Member since 1974.
Platinum Visa Account.
We will have unlimited withdra
withdrawal at any atm world-
wide.
You will activate the bank
account, credit card, and pin
number.
We will contact you at
[end page 2]
Pg 3.
(Ashland, VA)
Ponderosa ^ Buffet tel #: 798-9205
6:00 am Sunday Morning.
You have until 9:00 a.m.
Monday morning to complete
transaction.
"Try to catch us withdrawing
at least you will have less
body bags."
(But)
(ii) If trying to catch us now
more important then prepare
you body bags.
If we give you our word
that is what takes place
"Word is Bond."
P.S. your children are not
safe anywhere at any time.
[end page 3]
My question which the media has ignored - - who is Jill Lynn Farell? FOX originally said that the credit card may have belonged to the female manager of the liquor store robbed supposedly by M&M in Alabama, but her name was Claudine Parker(aged 52) and the survivor was Kelly Adams...Is this an acct no or a "platinum VISA card" no? So, just whose credit card was it anyway that M&M wanted the money sent to?
WHY HAS THE NAME "JILL LYNN FARELL" NOT SURFACED FOR SCRUTINY IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA?
This whole case is very weird... was it all about money? We'll never know.
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posted on
10/31/2002 12:31:41 AM PST
by
slym
To: slym
My question which the media has ignored - - who is Jill Lynn Farell? From Reply 15 on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/776379/posts
From the Washington Post
The credit card in question belonged to a Greyhound bus driver in Flagstaff, Ariz., whose driver's license and credit cards were stolen March 25. The woman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the cards were taken from a pouch behind her seat while she was driving a bus on the 337-mile route between Nogales, Ariz., and Flagstaff. She did not realize the Visa card had been stolen until Bank of America's fraud control branch wrote her April 11, saying it had automatically closed the account after the Visa was used for a $12.01 gasoline purchase in Tacoma, Wash., that the bank believed to be fraudulent.
"That was the end of that, until last Sunday when I had the FBI calling me at Greyhound, saying that through this credit card they [had a link to] the people involved with the sniping," she said.
As noted above, the Post did not hide her name in the .pdf file it released. I guess the Post's word is not its bond...
15 posted on 10/26/2002 5:09 PM EDT by Fixit
The WP article is linked in that reply, but I didn't take the link; so I don't know if that is the same name you have found or not.
To: Born on the Storm King
I wish I knew you because you sound like a fun person to bet with!It's a rhetorical bet. I doubt either of us would ever have enough information to be able to collect :)
To: Lion's Cub
How were the two able to use a credit card made out in a woman's name?
To: Hail Caesar
Do you honestly trust the Feds to always do the right thing here? In this case they are doing the right thing. Watch what happens next :).
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posted on
10/31/2002 4:21:56 AM PST
by
Cachelot
To: Route66; Peach; Bella; Pete; areafiftyone; brigette; harpseal; Merovingian; Miss Marple; ...
Ping
To: slym
So, just whose credit card was it anyway that M&M wanted the money sent to? You should ask that question slightly differently. Who or what would have had access to that credit card account and been able to transfer the money elsewhere? Who have recently had their assets seized/frozen?
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posted on
10/31/2002 4:27:56 AM PST
by
Cachelot
To: Dog Gone
I rather have the case prosecuted by the state. Even if it comes down to liberal Maryland. But who is behind such a lying leak about the Feds? Douglas Gensler, the hot dog state prosecutor of Montgomery County.
This is DemRat Gensler, who is rabid for huge career boost, versus the Republican Department of Justice.
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posted on
10/31/2002 4:28:48 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: Cachelot
Do you honestly trust the Feds to do the right thing?
We're working with Ashcroft here not Janet aka "the pawn".
Now if we could just get rid of the bad witch of the north.
To: aristeides
How were the two able to use a credit card made out in a woman's name?It's possible that there was a female accomplice in there somewhere.
It's equally possible that there is no truth whatsoever to the story of the credit card being in a woman's name. We only get the information we are fed.
OTOH, if you only use a credit card for a cash withdrawl via an ATM, you only a need a PIN number to access the cash. I don't know what the limit is in other areas, but around here, it's usually $400 maximum at a time. The picture taken by most ATMs is probably pretty poor.
I personally don't put much stock in this story of a credit card. This guy was apparently smuggling people and tied into some sophisticated document forgers. He would have been too savy to ask for a deposit to a credit card. I believe the credit card story is probably a red herring.
To: Lion's Cub
How'd they get the pin number in the first place? It's not like they're punched on the cards anyplace.
Are we talking something beyond just robbing a card??...like computer hacking or an inside person.
I'd guess that bells and whistles would go off if you deposited $10 mil on you debit card or to any account for that matter.
To: Sacajaweau
How'd they get the pin number in the first place? It's not like they're punched on the cards anyplace. Are we talking something beyond just robbing a card??...like computer hacking or an inside person.
I'd guess that bells and whistles would go off if you deposited $10 mil on you debit card or to any account for that matter.
If the story is true, there would have to be someone one the inside (or a hacker with access to that account) to transfer the money as soon as it arrived. And it would have to be a heavyweight in computer technology and security, I would think, to avoid all the government traps and traces.
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