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To: Riesen Schwanz
Since the beginning of time, whenever man could not explain something, he attributed it to God.....just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....
3 posted on 10/30/2002 8:11:45 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt
Actually, many top scientists now believe God (or for those that refuse to acknowledge him) an intelligent creator formed the universe. This coincides with the big bang theroy as the way it was developed.

Ironically many scientists who were athiests have now come to believe in God through their studies on this and the mistaken belief of evolution (where living beings came from non-living matter) which have been disproved.

Some very interesting, though highly detailed books about that in book stores.

6 posted on 10/30/2002 8:17:12 AM PST by shoedog
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To: ContemptofCourt
Your statement is correct in that many man-made phoney religions have been invented. However, the preciseness of the universe, small tolerances of constants, DNA structure, etc all point to intelligent design. The designer is Jesus Christ. Numerous prophecies, Saints, miracles, the Resurrection, etc affirm this. All He asks is for you to accept him as your personal savior. In other words, knock and he will let you in. Otherwise, perish. Fairly reasonable request. Reasonable or not, He's God and it's his game.
11 posted on 10/30/2002 8:43:39 AM PST by plain talk
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To: ContemptofCourt; Mind-numbed Robot
Since the beginning of time, whenever man could not explain something, he attributed it to God.....just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....

You've done an adequate job of describing the intellectual filter through which you look at history, but not the history itself.

As far as people talking about science never having proven the existence of G-d and thinking that statement actually means something--those people have already assumed an affirmative answer to two previous questions: 1. Is there a definitive test by which "science" or "mathematics" could prove the existence of G-d? 2. Has the test been carried out?

The answer to the first question is that, up to this point, there is not such a test and that there has been little serious thought even devoted to the matter. Given the mindset of naturalism (similar to that of liberalism), there is little desire to spend time on it. The answer to the second question is no.

The immediate thought of many with respect to the first question is that if there has been no test, it just proves that G-d doesn't exist. This assumes that if such a being did exist, his existence would be subject to the conditions of the intellectual tool known as "science" and that, therefore, such a test could be devised. There is no reason to suppose this assumption to be valid. If anything, the most that can be drawn from the inability of "science" to devise such a test is that there are limitations to "science"; it certainly wouldn't be that whatever "science" cannot measure cannot possibly exist.
18 posted on 10/30/2002 9:02:49 AM PST by aruanan
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To: ContemptofCourt
"T'wer it not for God, man would have invented him".
21 posted on 10/30/2002 9:06:47 AM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: ContemptofCourt
"T'wer it not for God, man would have invented him".
24 posted on 10/30/2002 9:08:48 AM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: ContemptofCourt
Since the beginning of time, whenever man could not explain something, he attributed it to God.....just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....

Here's a philosophical question for YOU to answer: How does finding a scientific explanation for something prove that God DIDN'T make it?

34 posted on 10/30/2002 9:46:34 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: ContemptofCourt
"just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it...."

Just because you can't explain it doesn't mean He didn't either. We each choose what we wish to believe and no amount of evidence either way is going to change someone's mind until they are ready to have their mind changed. Many claim to be open minded (note the last quote of this article), but it's usually those who claim they are the most open minded who are the least.

40 posted on 10/30/2002 10:35:17 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: ContemptofCourt
I wonder if this verse means Paul has already been there. Everyone has heard the phrase "Seventh Heaven".

2 Cor 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

This is not the only example, there is a related history of a man called Enoch, who walked with God, and then he was not because God took him. Of course some people look on these as fables, some look on them as simple facts.

69 posted on 10/30/2002 1:57:39 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: ContemptofCourt
Since the beginning of time, whenever man could not explain something, he attributed it to God.....just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....

.... and if we can "explain" it, it does not mean that "God" did not make it either... but some do credit fully their dogs for teaching them how to train them ... while others are a bit more realistic in discerning "proselytising" variables from the essential variables, the good currencies yielding good fruits.

79 posted on 10/30/2002 4:10:55 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: ContemptofCourt
.....just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....

The universe always existed,would explain a lot.

Except that's not to our liking . So we say God made the universe and God always existed.- Tom

100 posted on 10/31/2002 9:21:26 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: ContemptofCourt
just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....

Just because we can explain it, doesn't mean that God didn't make it.

104 posted on 10/31/2002 10:25:47 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: ContemptofCourt
just because we can't explain it (yet) does not mean that "God" made it....

Then please tell all of us who did?

108 posted on 10/31/2002 10:35:26 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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