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Age-Old Culinary Questions Still Stir a Fire
New York Times ^ | October 23, 2002 | R. W. APPLE Jr.

Posted on 10/27/2002 5:45:12 PM PST by stainlessbanner

OXFORD, Miss., Oct. 21 — This was no everyday summit conference. For a start, there were a lot more bluejeans than pinstripe suits.

There were dire predictions, of course, and the requisite amount of pointing with alarm. But instead of conference rooms perfumed with cigar and cigarette smoke, there were tents perfumed with oak and hickory smoke, and instead of a final communiqué full of dependent clauses, there was a final speech by Calvin Trillin of The New Yorker, full of one-liners.

More than 300 people, mostly Southerners, some more knowledgeable than others, gathered on the campus of Ole Miss last weekend to praise barbecue, argue about barbecue and gorge on barbecue, which one overexcited speaker described as "the only truly American food." That completely baffled those in the crowd who had never before contemplated the foreign origins of gumbo, cornbread and the P.B.&J.

It was the fifth and largest annual conference sponsored by the Southern Foodways Alliance, a multiracial group devoted to the preservation of traditional regional cooking, both high-falutin' and low-down. The alliance operates under the aegis of the Center for the Study of Southern Culture at the University of Mississippi.

Culinary authorities shed heat, if not necessarily light, on exactly the kinds of questions that baffle diplomats. Precisely where, for instance, is the border between Down East and Piedmont barbecue in North Carolina? That line proved every bit as difficult to define as the one between India and Pakistan in Kashmir.

Age-old questions were revisited: Wood or charcoal? Pork or beef (or mutton or goat)? Chopped or sliced? Sauce based on tomatoes, vinegar or mustard? Sauce on top, sauce on the side, or no sauce at all? And what about side dishes? Coleslaw, baked beans and potato salad, not much controversy there; but what about fries? Are they too tainted by McDonald's?

There was no consensus on any of these questions, but McDonald's and the like lurked villainously in the background all weekend, even though the words "fast food" were never spoken. Van Sykes of Bob Sykes BarB-Q in Bessemer, Ala., who sells 800 to 1,000 pounds of barbecue a day, said he had resisted the lure of microwave ovens and gas smokers, clinging to traditional methods of cooking. But he has embraced computers and drive-throughs.

"To survive in the barbecue business today," Mr. Sykes warned, "you have to find ways to fit into people's lifestyles. Either you get them in and out in 30 minutes or they'll go someplace else for lunch the next time."

Bob Kantor, proprietor of Memphis Minnie's in San Francisco, deplores ersatz products like "pork in barbecue sauce" that show up on supermarket shelves. "These attempts to make a great deal of money out of a bastard product," he said, threaten the genuine, handcrafted article.

Lingering doubts about the future were eased, however, by the excellence of the food served here — not only the barbecue from Big Bob Gibson's in Decatur, Ala., the Cozy Corner in Memphis and Mitchell's in Wilson, N.C., but also the irresistible breakfast pies baked by Karen Barker of the Magnolia Grill in Durham, N.C.

On Saturday night, the visiting gourmands ate to the stirring sounds of the Rising Star Fife and Drum Band, led by 94-year-old Othar Turner.

Scholars like John Shelton Reed of the University of North Carolina and Lolis Eric Elie of The Times-Picayune in New Orleans grappled manfully with the geography and sociology of slow-cooked meat, without reaching any firm conclusions. No issue was knottier than this one: Why is barbecue cooked almost entirely by black men in some regions and almost entirely by white men in others? Migration patterns clearly had something to do with it, speakers said, and maybe racial politics too. But no comprehensive theory emerged.

If anyone addressed the question of why pitmasters seem invariably to be male, your correspondent was out of the room at the time.

Brisket cooked by white men, often of Czech or German descent, has a hammerlock on the affections of Texans, though there was once a vigorous black barbecue tradition in that state. Yet according to Mr. Trillin, who has built a career on exaggerating the virtues of his hometown's barbecue, it can be dangerous in Kansas City to sample the wares of a white pitmaster.

Seated incongruously in the judge's chair in the old Oxford courthouse, he explained: "It's like going to a gentile internist. Things might turn out all right, but you never know."

Mr. Trillin argued that even the most observant of his fellow Jews could feel free to eat barbecued pork because of a little-known "easement" granted by the equally little-known Joplin (Mo.) Rebbe. But it was left to Marcie Cohen Ferris, a young scholar who grew up near Memphis, to disclose, less facetiously, that an Orthodox congregation there has held a kosher barbecue for the last 14 years, and that Corky's BBQ Restaurant has nearly perfected a kosher sauce.

Noting that one of the nation's largest Orthodox congregations lives cheek-by-jowl with dozens of restaurants devoted to "the pure unadulterated pig," Ms. Ferris asked, "Did a higher power place these Orthodox Jews in Memphis to test their faith?"

Right from the start, it was clear that for this group at least, the moratorium on New York-bashing that prevailed after Sept. 11 has ended. Mr. Elie, who comes from a tertiary barbecue capital himself, suggested that New York would never be "part of barbecue country" because it had no indigenous regional tradition, just techniques imported from somewhere else.

There were also barbs for Texas — "They only use beef because you can't lasso a pig," someone said — and for Atlanta. The metropolis of the New South, Dr. Reid said, "is what a quarter of a million Southern soldiers died to prevent": an overcrowded place with no soul and inferior barbecue. But all of this sounded tame and good-humored compared with the barbecue war between the Bessinger brothers of South Carolina, sparked by the decision of one of them, Maurice, to fly the Confederate flag over his pits in Columbia and the fury this engendered in his older brother, Melvin, of Charleston.

Maurice Bessinger, whose main restaurant, Piggie Park, has served as a state campaign headquarters for Pat Robertson, distributes a leaflet maintaining that Abraham Lincoln was the product of a mystical congress between John C. Calhoun and a Southern woman on her way north to Illinois. He told Jack Hitt, a writer who documented the Bessinger brouhaha, that the recipe for his mustard-based sauce was in the Bible.

"The parable of the mustard seed?" Mr. Hitt inquired helpfully.

Politics is never far from barbecue, and never far from Oxford, either. Forty years ago, on Oct. 1, 1962, James Meredith integrated Ole Miss after a night of rioting, and the memories of those events have lingered in town ever since. To the literati, Oxford may mean William Faulkner, who lived here and upon whose grave here students like to pour bourbon after a big night out; but for much of the country, Oxford still stands mostly for racial strife.

There are still a few reminders of those dark days, including the Mississippi state flag, prominently displayed at the symposium, which incorporates part of the Confederate flag. But Robert C. Khayat, the university's chancellor since 1995, has worked hard to promote racial harmony, and Mr. Meredith returned to Oxford for an anniversary commemoration early this month, along with many of the federal marshals who protected him in 1962. An oral history project got under way, and a civil rights monument will be dedicated in April at a prominent site on campus.

Yet as Curtis Wilkie, a retired journalist who teaches here, readily acknowledged, the woods only 10 miles away are "full of unreconstructed rednecks," and 25 miles to the west lies the largely black Mississippi Delta, an area of wretched, unrelenting poverty. Sometimes, said Gregory A. Schirmer, an English professor, "I feel as if I were living in West Berlin before the wall came down."

For Toni Tipton-Martin, the outgoing president of the Southern Foodways Alliance, Oxford's past was a problem, she said, and she accepted a leading role in an organization based here "with a lot of misgivings." Ms. Tipton-Martin, who was among the first black food editors in the country when she worked at The Cleveland Plain Dealer, said she fought some battles to ensure that the alliance remained truly multiracial, "but doing this job was the best thing I ever did."


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KEYWORDS: bbq; confederate; cookoff; culinary; hickory; mississippi; oak; smoker; southern
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To: stainlessbanner; rdb3; JRandomFreeper
Y'all have me drooling like Homer Simpson.

I have got to get some good barbecue tomorrow!

41 posted on 10/27/2002 6:48:01 PM PST by LibKill
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To: PJ-Comix
If you're ever in the Santa Barbara area of California, ... Pin a note to my pocket and send me home. California doesn't BBQ either. ;>)

/john

42 posted on 10/27/2002 6:49:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
Ribs? Try Dreamland in Tuskaloosa!
or perhaps the Rendezvous in Memphis for "Dry" ribs.
And they ship rub and ribs too!
but don't take just my word for it.


Rendezvous is a Memphis tradition for ribs dating back to 1948. I ate
here during a business trip and I highly recommend it. Dining "solo", I sat
at the bar, bypassing the crowds of people waiting for a table. Make no
mistake, this place excels at handling crowds and the wait was short by
anybody's standard.

The fare at this restaurant is "no nonsense" meat! Charcoal-broiled pork
ribs are the specialty and they were great! They had a wonderful dry rub
on the outside and the meat was moist and succulent. A full order runs
$13.50, a small order $11.00. They are accompanied by baked beans
and a great tasting coleslaw. Other "specials" include pork ribs & loin
should combo, pork loin plate, half charcoal-broiled chicken, beef ribs,
charcoal-broiled lamb riblets, pork shoulder plate, chargrilled chicken
breast and meatless red beans and rice (this was the "token" offering for
vegetarians-this is definitely a "carnivore" hangout!). The specials range
in price from $5.95 to $13.95.

While it is limited, the menu also includes appetizer plates and
sandwiches. The appetizer plate are mostly meat and cheese combos
ranging in price from $5.45 to $9.45. There is an appetizer portion of
charcoal broiled lamb riblets for $10.00. The sandwiches are, again,
mostly meat and cheese combos, ranging in price from $2.95 to $4.95
There is also a jumbo pork shoulder sandwich ($4.95) and a chargrilled
chicken sandwich ($6.75). Side orders are limited to baked beans, slaw,
pickles and peppers. The pickles are dill and really crunchy-- can testify
to that!

There is one additional specialty that sounded awesome. However,
since I was dining alone, it wasn't an option for me. It's called "Skillet of
Shrimp" and the story is: with 24 hours notice, the restaurant will prepare
their famous skillet of barbecue shrimp for you: 5 pounds (serves up to 8
people!), served in an old-fashioned skillet. Sounds great-but I didn't see
anybody who had ordered it, and I looked HARD!

Rendezvous has a wonderful, eclectic, upbeat décor. They have a
"museum-like" collection of antiques and other memorabilia, which hang
EVERYWHERE! The walls are lined with oil paintings, watercolors,
firearms, old photos, and other interesting artifacts. The ceiling over the
bar is covered with old musical instruments, sports helmets, license
plates and railroad lights. It is a really pleasant place to eat, whether you
are alone, with guests or with family. Service here is quiet and
unobtrusive. Initially, my waiter forgot to bring the pickles that I had
ordered. When I reminded him he practically fell over with apologies and
rarely left me afterward. When I left he, shyly, engaged me in
conversation (for the first time) and gave me a really big farewell smile,
which sparkled with plenty of gold dental work!

Another neat feature of the Rendezvous is the service they make
available to ship their ribs, sauce and seasoning anywhere in the
continental US via Federal Express. You simply dial 1-888-HOGS FLY.
Now you KNOW these people take their ribs seriously!
43 posted on 10/27/2002 6:50:09 PM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
I like it. Mmmmm. I need to write that number down.

/john

44 posted on 10/27/2002 6:53:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: TX Bluebonnet
Baked Beans? Not in Texas!

Don't the refried beans fall through the grill???

45 posted on 10/27/2002 6:58:24 PM PST by null and void
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To: Servant of the Nine; catpuppy
Ping

(ducking)...
46 posted on 10/27/2002 7:02:53 PM PST by null and void
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To: null and void
Don't the refried beans fall through the grill???

You don't have pictures. It never happened. That's my story.

/john

47 posted on 10/27/2002 7:05:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: stainlessbanner
"They only use beef because you can't lasso a pig,"

Priceless!

48 posted on 10/27/2002 7:05:43 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: stainlessbanner
I love BBQ and grew up about as Southern as is possible however I got to thinking about it and Bar-B-Que was pretty rare when I was a kid.

A typical meal was white peas or butter beans, fried okra, pork chops and corn bread (the kind cooked in a skillet). We had pepper and vinegar sauce for the greens if we had them.

Just about every time I ate BBQ was at some gathering or at a restaurant. We almost never cooked it ourselves.

As far as BBQ is concerned, the only meat to use is pork brisket. All the others taste ok but pork is by far the best. The mild relish and tomato sauce are the best and it is not necessary to put anything on the meat as it cooks except salt. I am starting to get hungry.

Unfortunately my wife is from Oklahoma and her Mother was from Iowa and she never has learned to cook Southern, despite the fact all her Fathers people are from the deep South.

49 posted on 10/27/2002 7:18:02 PM PST by yarddog
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To: stainlessbanner
"To Southerners, BBQ is an obsession, we're born with it"

That is so true. Actually I thik I was nearly a teenager before I ever even had a hamburger. I grew up in a tiny little town in Virginia. We didn't even have our own cop, but we had 3 places you could go for barbeque. Can't say I've ever had better than this one little place we used to go. You could get your barbeque (pork of course, for those who don't know) either minced or sliced, with or without slaw, on a lightly grilled bun with a mustard based sauce. On the side were home made fries and of course sweet tea or a coke to drink. And for desert, peach ice cream. This was our weekly supper outing. And they sold comic books. None of this weird stuff like is around now, but the good old fashioned kids comics like Nancy and Sluggo and Casper and Wendy. I'd always get to buy a comic book to read with my meal. *Sigh* Now I'm hungry!

50 posted on 10/27/2002 7:19:14 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Grut
"A recipe for healthy tofu barbecue with a side of kidney-bean chili?"

Blasphemy!!!

51 posted on 10/27/2002 7:21:58 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: stainlessbanner; rdb3
Brisket is good, but I will never be able to bring myself to call it barbeque.
52 posted on 10/27/2002 7:31:27 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: tet68
"not a problem, and Brunswick stew that isn't ground to mush"

An honest to God Brunswick Stew is second only to barbeque as a culinary delight.

53 posted on 10/27/2002 7:35:14 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: null and void; gratefulwharffratt
Nully, you are very bad pinging the Swervie to one of these threads without pinging the Ratt. You just like to watch us all go at it. This has been a very civilized thread so far....okay, so I have had to bite my tongue a few times, but all in all. If Swervie shows up I will have to practically bite it off!
54 posted on 10/27/2002 7:41:07 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Nully, you are very bad pinging the Swervie to one of these threads without pinging the Ratt.

I can never remember how to spell his screen name...

55 posted on 10/27/2002 7:43:37 PM PST by null and void
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To: sweetliberty
So, where in Virginia did you enjoy these culinary delights? I love the pig roasts that still abound in Virginia. Nothing like a good day long outdoor party with good food!
56 posted on 10/27/2002 7:44:56 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
It was in a town called Ettrick. It is situated between Petersburg, Colonial Heights, and Matoaca. There was also a great place in Colonial Heights called Gene's barbeque and there is a place out in Dinwiddie county, or at least used to be, also called Gene's, although I don't know if they are owned by the same people. Good barbeque though. Dinwiddie county also used to have Brunswick stew cook-offs.
57 posted on 10/27/2002 7:51:31 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: rdb3
.....glad to see pecan mentioned...pecan is first cousin to a hickory....I prefer it when I can get it; generally after a hurricane there's plenty free for the asking....it's too valuable a tree to cut otherwise...

...now about BBQ.....the best there is IMHO is true pit BBQ and it is very rare now days because of the work involved.....first you need to dig a pit in the ground about the size of a grave opening only 2 1/2 feet deep and sloped on each end so you can continually shovel in coals...about 2 am you build your fire [we're talking cord wood here]in the pit and after it burns down to hot coals you put your grill over the opening...a lot of guys like steel mesh but I've also used an set of army cot springs.....simultaneously you build another fire so that you have fresh replacement coals to shovel in the pit....then you put your meat on and it will be ready for your guests at noon..the trick is to keep your fire low and slow.....it takes two men to tend the meat and the fires and it can be hard on your back cause you're bending over a lot.....it's easier if you use a 3-tined pitch fork with a cut down handle to turn your meat...sauce is made up in a 5 gallon buckets and applied with a clean cotton mop with a cut down handle.....you can feed a couple hundred people.....I was introduced to this method in Georgia and old timers said the red clay there makes the best pit...it really holds the heat.....I've also seen it done in S.Texas cooking both steers and goats.....

Good luck to everybody!

Stonewalls

58 posted on 10/27/2002 8:52:43 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: sweetliberty
Yesterday
59 posted on 10/27/2002 9:23:44 PM PST by gratefulwharffratt
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To: sweetliberty
Blasphemy!!!

Mind you, that's kidney-bean chili with brown sugar, stewed tomatoes and no nasty cumin, though. ;^)

60 posted on 10/28/2002 7:10:03 AM PST by Grut
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