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1 posted on 10/27/2002 10:06:08 AM PST by toenail
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2 posted on 10/27/2002 10:07:18 AM PST by BenLurkin
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"One thing leads to another. . ."
3 posted on 10/27/2002 10:08:19 AM PST by BenLurkin
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4 posted on 10/27/2002 10:14:39 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Blacks who think they will ultimately be accepted by Islam are fools. More slaves went to the Middle East than just about anyplace else. Where are they all now? Murdered. Muslims used to make piles of their skulls. Where I live, a Palestinian stabbed his daughter to death while his wife held her, because she was dating a black teenage boy.
5 posted on 10/27/2002 10:17:25 AM PST by Trickyguy
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ping!
6 posted on 10/27/2002 10:24:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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And it's odd that the author works on a project funded by the Ford Foundation, which has long worked on population control and dumbing down education, which I see as the two root causes of the breakdown of black society in the U.S.
7 posted on 10/27/2002 10:27:09 AM PST by toenail
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Great find, interesting read. Something makes me think that mainstream journalists will find exploring the motivations and influences of John Muhammad distinctly uncomfortable.
8 posted on 10/27/2002 10:27:52 AM PST by Plutarch
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Good informative post. The term "representing" goes back farther than the five percenter's rap.
10 posted on 10/27/2002 10:46:00 AM PST by bvw
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...Blyden became convinced that Islam was better suited for people of African descent than Christianity, because of what he saw as the lack of racial prejudice, the doctrine of brotherhood and the value placed on learning in Islam. His seminal tome, Christianity, Islam and the Negro Race (1888), laid the groundwork for a pan-Africanism with a strong Islamic cultural and religious undergirding.

HORSEFEATHERS!!!! muslims in Sudan and Mauritania still make slaves of black Africans, and many African slaves are exported to the Gulf states!!!! The slave trade in East Africa was in existence long before Europeans engaged in the African slave trade, and many African-Americans are descended from captured Africans who were sold to European slave traders by muslim chiefs.

If African-Americans want a REAL black religion, they should become Ethiopian Orthodox Christians!!!! Neither slavery nor terrorism is part of the Ethiopian Orthodox ethos or culture.

....John Walker Lindh, the [white native-born American] Marin County "black nationalist"-turned-Taliban....

Some people consider me--a native-born American with no Serbian ancestry that I know of--a "Serbian nationalist". But I never picked up a gun or a bomb to kill anyone, and have no plans whatsoever to do so. Go figure!

12 posted on 10/27/2002 11:29:54 AM PST by Honorary Serb
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13 posted on 10/27/2002 11:48:03 AM PST by mhking
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Interesting thing is that for all of there Muslim/Five Percenter pretensions, many blacks HATE the Arab shopkeepers in their neighborhoods and vice versa. In all of my conversations with Arab immigrants, I have been struck by their total disgust with African Americans. Koreans tend to feel the same way. As far as the NOI crew is concerned, many guys just dabble in it as a way to rationalize their prejudices, without becoming orthodox Muslims.

As far as poor Latinos are concerned, I didn't notice many Muslims when I worked with a youth education program in Chicago that was 80% Mexican-American. They probably have more success with Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, many of whom are indistinguishible from blacks.

17 posted on 10/27/2002 12:29:33 PM PST by Clemenza
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nice toe
20 posted on 10/27/2002 12:37:29 PM PST by spycatcher
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This is a pretty gloomy article, if hope is what you are looking for in the Black Culture and inner cities.

Liberals have worked hard at making the conditions which have destroyed black families and jobs in the cities through Urban Renewal and the Great Society. We have sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind. The author erroneously blames Reagan/Bush for a lot of the pathology in the cities, but he does get a lot of the rest right.

Islam is not the "hope" for blacks, it is a dead-end for any culture. Christianity is the real hope for their future. So are the freedoms, free enterprise, decent education and enlightened (not Liberal) institutions which stem from good and honest government. Blacks have been denied all that by the Liberal/corrupt urban machine elites who prefer their votes and control rather than their genuine welfare.

It's amazing blacks are so blind to those who have been so oppressing them and yet they continue to support them. One can understand their anger against "the system". But, who runs "the system" in these hell-holes, anyway? Certainly not conservatives or those who believe in and try to practice our Constitution! They were driven out long ago.

22 posted on 10/27/2002 1:21:49 PM PST by Gritty
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Considering that the culture of the modern succesful black family in America is often matriarchal, I have to question how well the women-as-livestock religion can actually penetrate?

Great post. Ping for reference.
24 posted on 10/27/2002 6:42:55 PM PST by Cobra Scott
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toenail, what a great find which is a great timeline of this problem with documentation. I have bookmarked it.

Ernest thanks for the ping.
26 posted on 10/27/2002 10:48:22 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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This is a long but and excellent documented article of the problem we have been investigating and posting about for over a year.

I have bookmarked this article so people can come to my home page to read it. Or you may want to bookmark it.

This is a prime example of how Political Correctness will kill all of us if not stopped.
27 posted on 10/27/2002 10:51:52 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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Thanks for finding and posting this.
28 posted on 10/31/2002 9:22:36 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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Nation Of Islam Q and A
30 posted on 11/13/2002 12:52:48 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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For a sobering look at these potential Islamists, check out Monster, by Kody Scott AKA Sanyika Shakur. Basically there are whole generations of guys who've done nothing all their lives but wage warfare against other gangs and LEOs. Should these combat veterans decide to make coordinated forays into the soft,white underbelly of suburbia, whether or not they're motivated by anti-American Islamism, it would be an interesting day at the office.
31 posted on 11/13/2002 1:44:09 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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Bump for later study
32 posted on 12/19/2002 8:06:19 AM PST by ex-Texan
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